From owner-freebsd-chat Tue May 5 14:09:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10425 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 14:09:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10372; Tue, 5 May 1998 14:09:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tera.tera.com) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [207.224.230.127]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07063; Tue, 5 May 1998 14:08:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA21160; Tue, 5 May 1998 14:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805052108.OAA21160@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: InfoWorld brawl esclates In-Reply-To: <19980505214927.34624@follo.net> from Eivind Eklund at "May 5, 98 09:49:27 pm" To: eivind@yes.no (Eivind Eklund) Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 14:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Cc: brett@lariat.org, kline@tera.tera.com, dg@root.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL23 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Eivind Eklund: > On Tue, May 05, 1998 at 01:25:15PM -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > > At 11:08 AM 5/5/98 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > One reason we humans have survived these score millennia > > > is because cooperation precedes competition. Individual > > > effort sometimes yield brilliant results; cooperative, > > > maximum. Both operating systems would gain if features > > > from each were shared. > > > > > > Both the *BSD and *Linux OS's agree with the free software > > > paradigm; it's a matter of degree. > > > > One would certainly hope so! But tune in to that InfoWorld forum > > to see what's actually going on. Anyone who critiques the GPL > > is *immediately* branded a "Linux basher," a "zealot," or worse. > > Ditto anyone who points out areas in which FreeBSD has advantages > > over Linux. The rhetoric is *nasty*, guys. Oh, no doubt. We've had some nasty little spats ourselves. If there _is_ a way of combatting such bias ((short of getting an Uzi and moving these people down in hot blood)) it is to speak up with an informed reason. Sort of ``the BIG LIE'' in reverse. If, after hearing our side of things, the majority isn't swayed, well, too bad.... > > Sorry - I don't agree. In the forums, you _do_ tend to come over as a > zealot and Linux basher. (And claiming that I get this impression > because I'm a closet Linuxial won't get you anywhere ;-) > I'm sure that Brett can fight his own battles; but from knowing him as a fellow porter, he's fair and mellow. He's got something most lack: enthusiasm! gary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message