From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 08:08:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604401065670 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B628FC13 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8D88ZpV027953 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:08:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o8D88ZNa027952 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:08:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:08:35 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> <86vd6df4yx.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86vd6df4yx.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009131108.35488.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:08:38 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Saturday 11 September 2010 04:23:34 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 = Randal L. Schwartz =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > >>>>> "Jason" =3D=3D Jason C Wells writes: >=20 > Jason> On 09/10/10 07:29, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>=20 > >> I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. > >>=20 > >>=20 > Jason> Java is not just for browsers. >=20 > Indeed. And I still stand by my statement. >=20 > Java makes everyone equally incompetent, which is why managers like it. > It helps the beginner, hurts the advanced. Managers can swap > programmers in and out strictly on head count, not on experience. Seems like you claim that FreeBSD/java is for the incompetent uneducated ne= wbies while Windows/javascript/html is for PhD holders :) >=20 > Friends don't let friends make greenstarts with Java. >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios