From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Apr 18 20:45:53 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09272AD605 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 20:45:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from mail-wm1-x32b.google.com (mail-wm1-x32b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 494Q345YRMz3PXq for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 20:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by mail-wm1-x32b.google.com with SMTP id z6so6834865wml.2 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 13:45:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adamw-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hZPevXi+1pkjCGYprJcLOTiNFKrveP52ecRBLNUZMqY=; b=rWX4dvLKkpibp7nAg0xS3vl+aZv0ns5D68DwGUcdMFep/wrm+tDxJB1PWv7FSRtzvt Z2pQ5LCeRF//mPjdUx5jzcS1ilU4E5QlQ8yj5cbFL5QkH5ASFdAo1qVqcMR5HsMUJZSs 107cQqvp6sV1XGdpRzU7OwBpjYZpICeBi0PaBfAJ7WXxd6ywBPyI1SyMhw55vRTE6U/g 1ZmubKAdEOy4tpKkSNr1yn7tQ5k+L14nFGmGm95Za3j1RsGvctInPdbnNfMjdqdjScfW OZhkZEtMl9CCtZ5VMgYspD36IIdEgx1s5vum0lChUmAVHo6DXJSHR5CcptV97Te9dz/N FPtw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hZPevXi+1pkjCGYprJcLOTiNFKrveP52ecRBLNUZMqY=; b=uUATZ9Renradx6hFTQXoIllcAi3eCZhyPS7ZRyfydI2+ON+ZZMUhkeJtXAJPC+fNzm VYaLXJB8337HwkN+oH5QGePjgbp+cceEtabYVPSlY7yoMm+Ew9L6FvmChH1a8xmuJe6w t3PmGI1BgD15f47aGekCx246Yoribc4AGDUyQknWk7oZj0Jyw6oRVKTsW7vRb6WAiFvg OvmgSuAuP041fa3kjoRO/L+K1KMp4aMyKjp0Q8b4Cb4Su84ZHvjC4rfxvBIeoe6iXD5b N7GkTax7HQn9Tm8a1NIqLZmk7tkkr+LrRgoYNrig9aGhQspfpNtQaM93GPPzsxpKXvxK XGww== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pub+h+fi7maY9z5zpFzuZOlP9oDl43lbKlTVE0GqP2ef87tOBX7g ltK3tR/88sFyenLh86T7chiyD2q/uVGfP4ENLmeq2Kng X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypISOVf0mNG1oUwwiRXudkL0rlIn2JajbAfux4xR33s3b6iuo/v7HYze8GARRrgxDggQKdJnAyXV+PAroeTzrP8= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c4d0:: with SMTP id g16mr9631845wmk.154.1587242750385; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 13:45:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Adam Weinberger Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 14:45:34 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BLENDER 2.79 To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: Shane Ambler , freebsd-ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 494Q345YRMz3PXq X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=adamw-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=rWX4dvLK; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of adamw@adamw.org designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::32b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=adamw@adamw.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[adamw-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[adamw.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[adamw-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; SUBJ_ALL_CAPS(0.90)[12]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.38)[ip: (-9.10), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.34), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 20:45:53 -0000 On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 2:31 PM Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > Hello world :-) > > I have been using Blender-2.79 from Shane's Red Ports repository on > GitHub because Blender since version 2.80 (current port is 2.82) > unfortunately removed the Blender Game Engine (BGE) which I am using > for work. > > The only solution so far is to use older Blender2.79 that still has > the BGE. Blender developers just removed something with no alternative > and no plan for alternative. Luckily I found Shane's repository that > provides port for older version. > > Another solution is to have UPBGE Blender 2.80 fork with experimental > and refreshed BGE included, unfortunately the BGE API has changed and > it is not backward-compatible. > > My question is can we include both Blender-2.79 and UPBGE in the > official ports tree next to official Blender release? All dependencies > are provided, all of them works fine next to each other. It would be > really handy to have at least Blender-2.79 from PKG. > > https://github.com/sambler/sambler-redports/tree/master/graphics/blender279 > https://github.com/sambler/sambler-redports/tree/master/graphics/upbge BGE is gone and done, and in most cases FreeBSD does not keep old versions of ports around, and that's especially true for massive and complex projects like Blender. When UPBGE matures it'd be great to have it in the tree, but bringing back unsupported and unmaintained older versions of software isn't a path we go down very often. If Blender were a trivial build, it'd be more feasible, but the complexity of the maintenance burden is difficult to overcome. # Adam -- Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org