From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 01:12:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2BC16A417 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEEB13C455 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 17:12:39 -0800 Message-ID: <4754A985.3090307@riderway.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 20:12:37 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <47541063.4010101@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47541063.4010101@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: [RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering (Repost from -ports@) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:12:40 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > [Repost from -ports@] > > As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at > least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should > remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates > if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 years). I have > volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot project to examine what > changes (if any) are needed in the system (for the purposes of this > thread I will not venture any of my own suggestions). I have the > following broad questions for people: > > 1. What is more important to your personal use of FreeBSD (the ports > system, the underlaying OS, some other aspect)? Software builds correct and is present. Including a way to make my own custom packages for distribution. > > 2. How frequently do you interact with the ports systems and what is > the most common interaction you have with it? Daily, updating, and maintaining the ports tree itself. > > 3. What is the single best aspect of the current system? Its source based and re-uses and existing language (make) instead of inventing a new one. > > 4. What is the single worst aspect of the current system? Most ports don't deal well with multiple versions. Even apache which is versioned doesn't do it that well. > > 5. If you where a new FreeBSD user how would your answers above > change? If you where brand new to UNIX how whould they change? I'd want a gui and not to compile anything. > > 6. Assuming that there was no additional work on your behalf would you > use a new system if it corrected your answer to number 4? Quite possibly. > > 7. Same as question 6 but for your answer on question 3? (that doesn't make sense -- if you corrected the single best aspect of ports?) > > 8. How long have you used FreeBSD and/or UNIX in general? since 2.2.8 ~1998 > > 9. That is your primary use(s) for your FreeBSD machine(s) (name upto 3)? Desktop Development (SVN, imap, you name it) Production (FAMP stacks) > > 10. Assuming there is no functional difference what is your preferred > installation method for 3rd party software? source compilation -- except for things like Xorg, Firefox and Thunrderbird because they are just so darn big. > > 11. On a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best) please rate the > importance of the following aspects of the ports system? > > a. User Interface 7 > b. Consistency of behaviors and interactions 5 > c. Accuracy in dependant port installations 7 > d. Internal record keeping 4 > e. Granularity's of the port management system 6 > > 12. Please rate your personal technical skill level? Very High -- Professional System Admin _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching.