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Date:      Thu, 20 May 1999 18:21:42 -0700
From:      Eric Lakin <elakin@ricochet.net>
To:        Avalon Books <avalon@advicom.net>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Secure Deletion
Message-ID:  <19990520182142.A1242@ptah.ricochet.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9905201452520.2841-100000@vespucci.advicom.net>; from Avalon Books on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 03:05:18PM -0500
References:  <3.0.6.32.19990520095507.00840010@india.wind-river.com> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9905201452520.2841-100000@vespucci.advicom.net>

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On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 03:05:18PM -0500, Avalon Books spread the following propaganda:
> 
> > As for "secure" deletion...  Why doesn't someone just write a simple
> > user-space program to do that.  True, it wouldn't handle calls to unlink(),
> > but one would think that someone could modify the library really quick
> > (provided no one does a system call directly, but uses the libc interface
> > instead).  I think this would be much better for everyone involved.
> 
>    Actually, I've done this already. At the moment, its a simple
> stand-alone program (I originally wrote during my DOS days, years ago),
> but I've been toying with the idea of adding the method in as an option
> for 'rm'. No need to tie up the kernel with this sort of thing.
> 
>    It uses a combination of randomly-generated and pattern-specific
> overwrites of a file (or group of files) in-place, in order to make
> recovery extremely difficult--even with advanced equipment (like
> echo-cancellation analysis systems). A standard file-deletion is issued
> after its done mangling the file(s) in question. It works ok, I guess, as
> betas go. 

This sounds similar to "rm -P" in a stock FreeBSD system (3.1, atleast)


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