Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:27:54 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org> To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Cc: bdodson@beowulf.utmb.edu, sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, nate@mt.sri.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fortran in the base system Message-ID: <199812162227.OAA08758@tao.thought.org> In-Reply-To: <199812162113.OAA24973@mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Dec 16, 98 02:13:54 pm"
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According to Nate Williams: > [ Removing f77 from the release ] > > > > I'd argue (heck, I am arguing. :) that it should be removed. > > > > > > Surprisingly, I would actually support this. > > > > > > > Me too. It takes away a lot of the potential for confusion for > > the casual user, thereby alerting them that they need to do > > something extra (like install a port or package or ask someone > > with experience with FBSD how to proceed). And we don't get the > > rap of poor performance in this problem domain. > > We're getting alot of positive response from people who want it > removed. Aside from Alfred, are they any other dissenters? > > I've always thought of a computer system _without_ FORTRAN as serious lacking. Not because my first course was in F77; after all, this was a few (um, 20) summers ago. But because FORTRAN is still fairly widely used in the non-hacker disciplines. If we do yank it--with or without extreme prejudice--then when some non-geek user does an % appropos fortran, he should see something like fortran: you gotta port it if you wanna use it. Nutshell: I'm almost neutral, but not entirely. gary > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service uNix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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