From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 26 20:16:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A283957 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cryx-freebsd@h3q.com) Received: from mail.h3q.com (mail.h3q.com [213.73.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDE6C11 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66716 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2013 20:09:25 -0000 Received: from mail.h3q.com (HELO mail.h3q.com) (cryx) by mail.h3q.com with CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 26 Mar 2013 20:09:25 -0000 Message-ID: <51520073.7080505@h3q.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:09:23 +0100 From: Philipp Wuensche User-Agent: Postbox 3.0.7 (Macintosh/20130119) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: qjail fork attribution was Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique References: <1UHfYF-000LVV-4Y@internal.tormail.org> <5148980A.1070408@erdgeist.org> <20130321170556.Q32142@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <514CD742.7030207@a1poweruser.com> <5150F9A4.4010903@erdgeist.org> <5151CC28.8060407@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <5151CC28.8060407@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:16:10 -0000 Fbsd8 wrote: > > Dear Dirk Engling > > I feel sorry for you. I man with such talent and respect has fallen to > such a level of self induced public humiliation. This outburst only > confirms my suspicion that your suffering from dementia caused by > advancing age. I tried to give you a way to save face as I purposed in > my private email to you. But now that you have moved things into the > public light you force me to publicly point out just how confused your > thinking is. First of all, as someone who has contributed code, patches and testing to ezjail and who worked with Dirk together on several projects I have to say that the last person who is unwilling to share his knowledge and/or code or to receive criticism is Dirk. Dear Joe Barbish, We all are writing open source software here, we don't receive money and most of us will not receive fame for it and we are okay with that. The only thing we humbly ask for is to at least give credit where credit is due. This and talking to each other in a friendly way so we can share our knowledge amongst us and keep up communication. You do nothing of that. Let me point out why. You took ezjails code and rewrote every part mentioning "ezjail" to fit your own. Up until here, everything is okay. You just created a fork. But then you took a look at the licence the software is released under and decide its a joke! But you don't stop there, you also add your own licence and claim the copyright! To take things further, you not even come close to the idea of adding at least some credits to the original author of the software. This alone is against everything open source stands for in so many ways. When pointed out to your misbehaving, even if it was done by oversight, the only right thing you could have done is to quickly add the missing credit in your code and apologize. No harm would have been done. But now instead you start to question the original authors concern, even claim his software wasn't licenced correct! You even demand that he starts doing stuff to undo the consequences of your wrongdoing while stating to add the credits that would have been the right thing to do by you in the first place! Not only that but your style of communication is way out of bound regarding manner. This is not the first mail I have to read from you where you accuse people of mental illness or suffering from medication in one way or another. You yourself request professional style of communication from other people while at the same time do no such thing. You my "friend", and please everyone else forgive my choice of language, really are a nasty piece of work! > The FACT is the ezjail-3.2.3 port currently in the port system contains > NO verbiage concerning any type of license. Even the ezjail Makefile > doesn't invoke the BSD license. Btw. the website does: http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail/#License Greetings, Philipp