From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jan 17 6:11:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.149.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49B9337B400 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:11:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1545 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2001 14:11:23 -0000 Received: from jhs.muc.de (193.149.49.84) by slarti.muc.de with SMTP; 17 Jan 2001 14:11:23 -0000 Received: from park.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0HE9Qk18006 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:09:26 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200101171409.f0HE9Qk18006@jhs.muc.de> To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: One thing linux does better than FreeBSD... In-Reply-To: Message from "Ras-Sol" of "Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:35:24 PST." <05ce01c08014$ffa9c030$800a280a@speedera.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:09:26 +0100 From: "Julian Stacey Jhs@jhs.muc.de" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG BTW, for anyone wanting to start a fresh similar thread, we have advocacy@freebsd.org but as it's here for now: "Ras-Sol" wrote: > Am I the only one who thinks that he's just too cute? > I mean- I view FreeBSD as a potent force that follows it's directives with > razorlike precision and bleeding speed. > Somehow this is not embodied by a "cute" daemon. > I mean he IS a daemon! > Come on! > I've got a few GD friends, I'll sic them to work on a MEANER version... We can have multiple T shirts: each can wear what he feels goes well locally, but please let's not use a meaner Chuck for general use EG CDs. A plump penguin gives no offense (herrings excepted ?), but a Daemon/Demon/Devil is in comparison a bit of a marketing own goal. We're stuck with it now (from processes, & promoting BSD with Chuck so long); most non BSD people dont care, but some react negatively, & sharpening Chuck would be a deterent to some non BSD potential converts. A cdrom burner software package that runs on MS/Wincrap, has a `sharp' red demon on the box holding a bolt of lightning. At first glance it looks as if it might be a BSD product, thankfully it's not: A daemon like that would be an impediment at customer presentations, when telling people we intend to install BSD (CD in hand, Chuck prominent). A graphic of a daemon trident stuck in a penquin would alienate some Linux people, but a graphic of a penguin & a Chuck co-operating, jointly pulling out a fishing net, full of greenback fish labeled "MS" might make a good poster for joint marketing/promotion. Presumably it's cheaper to manufacture stuffed penguin mascots, than Chuck's ? no ears, no real leg, no trident, ... & easier to prop up on exhibition stands without falling over. Penguin mascot has enough advantages over Chuck already ! Julian - Julian Stacey Unix Consultant - Munich Germany http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ Considering Linux ? Try FreeBSD with 4200 packages ! Ihr Rauchen => mein allergischer Kopfschmerz ! Kau/Schnupftabak probieren ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message