From nobody Sat Nov 18 17:52:34 2023 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SXhF21svpz51Pkh for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 17:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henrichhartzer@tuta.io) Received: from w1.tutanota.de (w1.tutanota.de [81.3.6.162]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.tutanota.de", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SXhF11CsRz3Vbb for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 17:52:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henrichhartzer@tuta.io) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tuta.io header.s=s1 header.b=f0wwlt6n; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of henrichhartzer@tuta.io designates 81.3.6.162 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=henrichhartzer@tuta.io; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=tuta.io Received: from tutadb.w10.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15ABFBFAD4; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 17:52:34 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1700329954; s=s1; d=tuta.io; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=N38UbtZCZaIVBLnw/YFwM6MApT1dztpgpQb9qlhWuyA=; b=f0wwlt6nAekj9Kb1OE1G6JBmOzFlx0FPlOly6PvU5UpFBIIBv35UgH2oanjdg63L XG5AMaWaH4BTRzLcxCEUmteaQHcPahUWB2xRg1l/d1dGhAYDDlU4e06fqFg9rTQqgvN LzjKA3pZ+eaZfp9lFLE28U3M2E6Gj+KbB4JrOhTwCFXJUJfD9h0aRxBsbt90SgG9Mvy oz2e02VpxvPP+emNrCzX8zSe9pRXgV8cb8fbuNx9CQposO/C7pWNwfNNQn3HK6gbV2c q+8kUI7eEHoWXcywi0pI17EDQ2iBVY3EOV7uDe3rygdApV4ywRMO48dTNIBsxMYst4A NF71XE/iww== Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 18:52:34 +0100 (CET) From: henrichhartzer@tuta.io To: Paul Dufresne Cc: stable Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <18b78476914.e31ef40044402.789687992348441821@zoho.com> References: <18b78476914.e31ef40044402.789687992348441821@zoho.com> Subject: Re: So much longer to update than install fresh (+ no install feedback) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.30 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tuta.io,quarantine]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_EXCELLENT(-0.40)[81.3.6.162:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:81.3.6.160/28]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tuta.io:s=s1]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[zoho.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24679, ipnet:81.3.0.0/18, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tuta.io:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SXhF11CsRz3Vbb X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Hi Paul, I didn't see any other response to this. Is there a ZFS performance regression in 14.0? I wonder what a filesystem benchmark would show. Thanks for your tests! -Henrich Oct 28, 2023, 21:54 by dufresnep@zoho.com: > I realized that my previous message was a bit not precise. > > So, armed with the knowledge that "freebsd-update install" generally finish, I reinstalled 13.2 (which felt like 5 to 7 mins, did not clocked). > Was zfs default install (without ssh server). > > Then I updated the 44 patches for 13.2, then rebooted. > > I then used "/usr/bin/time -h freebsd-update -r 14.0-BETA1 upgrade" to clock it > (/usr/bin is necessary, else an internal time command is used, -h=humanly readable). > > It took a bit less than 20 mins to get the 10750 patches, apply them, and then get the 1309 files. > > Then the "/usr/bin/time -h freebsd-update install" before the reboot took 35.4 seconds. > > And then the "usr/bin/time -h freebsd-update install" after the reboot took: > 42m49s (1m20s user, 1m27s sys). > > My hardware is a i3-8100 with a Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 of 250 Gbytes. > > So about 1h to get the first step from 13.2 to 14.0 (still needs Beta2, Beta3, Beta4, Beta5, rc1, rc2 and rc3 to be done). > > Again... first point is that seems so much slower than a fresh install, second, really not much feedback during install phase of the upgrade. >