From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 11 21:23:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA26851 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 21:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.cmnsens.zoom.com (dragon.cmnsens.zoom.com [207.33.155.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA26843 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 21:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmnsens (cmnsens.cmnsens.zoom.com [207.33.155.2]) by dragon.cmnsens.zoom.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA06861 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 21:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708120423.VAA06861@dragon.cmnsens.zoom.com> From: "Mike Burgett" To: "hardware@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 97 21:23:05 -0700 Reply-To: "Mike Burgett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: K6-200 Has anyone successfully done a 'make world' ? Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:58:49 -0700 (PDT), Howard Lew wrote: >I think this will be a never ending topic of conversation, but let's try >to look at all possibilities. > >Questions to Ask/Answer/Consider: > >1) The K6-233 does run quite hot... Heatsink grease is required for all AMD >K6s according to AMD (I would say a fast fan is a good idea too). Check. >2) I have ran a K6-200 as a FreeBSD box and it does run fine, but I am >not the type who does make worlds so I can't tell you if it really/really >doesn't fail doing that test. It runs fine for typical stuff (X windows, >telnet sessions, etc.) It might be very interesting for you to test it on your world. (Maybe just a build, not an install). I seem to remember a rash of "my K6 won't run 'make world' anymore" postings awhile back that hit all around the same time. That was in the 2_2_RELENG branch, I believe. Since your config pre-dates that, it may provide some insight. >3) I think everyone I have heard around here says that they have "make world" >problems were using Asus motherboards. Is this just a coincidence? Yes, I >know you guys choose Asus because it is generally a high end motherboard >manufacturer. (The K6 does draw more current that a Pentium/MMX so a board >that works fine on a Pentium/MMX may not necessarily work on a K6, so >swapping it for a Pentium/MMX cpu does not necessarily make all things >equal). I have *no* problems with 'make world' with a pentium chip, other than it's slow. :) And, if you see below, I had a board that was recommended/tested by AMD for the K6, and it wouldn't make it as far as my Asus. Here's what I've tried (and I've copied yours, as I will any others I see here, so if someone wants to see the list later, I'll certainly have a copy...) (the cooler I'm using is the one recommended for the K6-266, which has a larger heatsink area, and moves over 2X the air the one recommended for the K6-200 does...) (I'm trying to stick with 430HX chipsets because of the >64M caching ability...) CPU Model: AMD K6-200 Motherboard: Asus P/I P55T2P4 3.10 (4 Month Old) Chipset: 430HX L2 Cache: 512K Pipeline Burst System Memory: 96MB EDO HD Controller: Asus SC200 (NCR 53C810) Hard Drives: Seagate ST3255N, HPSW30PN Bios: Award 0203, 0204-7 Switching/Linear VR: Switching HS Grease Applied: Yes Fan Type: CoolerMaster TI5-602525 Make World: Fails after 1-1.5 hours General FreeBSD Stuff: no problems FreeBSD Version: 2.2.2-stable CPU Model: AMD K6-200 Motherboard: Asus P/I P55T2P4 3.10 (New) Chipset: 430HX L2 Cache: 512K Pipeline Burst System Memory: 96MB EDO HD Controller: Asus SC200 (NCR 53C810) Hard Drives: Seagate ST3255N, HPSW30PN Bios: Award 0203 Switching/Linear VR: Switching HS Grease Applied: Yes Fan Type: CoolerMaster TI5-602525 Make World: Fails after 1-1.5 hours General FreeBSD Stuff: no problems FreeBSD Version: 2.2.2-stable CPU Model: AMD K6-200 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-586HX 1.53(?) (loaner) (AMD tested list) Chipset: 430HX L2 Cache: 512K Pipeline Burst System Memory: 96MB EDO HD Controller: Asus SC200 (NCR 53C810) Hard Drives: Seagate ST3255N, HPSW30PN Bios: Award (version/date unknown, later than reqd for K6) Switching/Linear VR: Linear HS Grease Applied: Yes Fan Type: CoolerMaster TI5-602525 Make World: Fails after 20 minutes General FreeBSD Stuff: no problems FreeBSD Version: 2.2.2-stable (I've tried all of the above with various bios settings, including the slowest for memory, and disabling all the various 'turbo' options, increasing IO recovery times, etc...) --Mike