From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 09:43:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E6B16A4CE for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:43:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A6743D49 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:43:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0T9hGj52768; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:43:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:43:15 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <38474.145.248.192.30.1106905141.squirrel@145.248.192.30> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:43:19 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Julien Gabel > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 1:39 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports. > > > >> Your missing the point. INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES > >> on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained, > >> ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete > >> install. Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release > >> the CDROMS in the first place. > > > Yeah, I totally agree, INDEX should be included in > ports.tar.gz for at > > least RELEASES. > > Included or not, the release is self contained (and don't require an > internet in that case) since the INDEX or INDEX-5 file can always be > generated from the local ports tree, via : > # cd /usr/ports; make index > So can many of the utilities - like perl and X - that are now supplied as binaries. I guess you want to go back to the 386BSD days when you had to build all those things yourself. I think you deserve to have your FreeBSD taken away for a month and be forced to run Solaris 2.5.1. That will teach you to smart off about being able to generate things. How would you like a Sendmail upgrade to take 2 hours, eh? Or let's see even better - how about bootstrapping a usable version of gcc on a SunOS box? Been there, done that. We don't want to go back to those days. There's a reason that precompiled and pregenerated stuff is included in the UNIX distributions. Neither Disk 1's require KDE or GNOME to be generated from the sources, either. Ted