From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jun 15 19:35:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (207-44-235-154.CodeGen.COM [207.44.235.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2A537BBE1; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:35:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (localhost.parag.codegen.com [127.0.0.1]) by pinhead.parag.codegen.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA78047; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:35:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) To: Mike Smith Cc: Sergey Babkin , Ronald G Minnich , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS? In-Reply-To: Message from Mike Smith of "Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:29:53 PDT." <200006160229.TAA01564@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Organization: CodeGen, Inc. X-Image-URL: http://www.codegen.com/images/CG-logo-only.gif X-URL: http://www.codegen.com X-Face: =O'Kj74icvU|oS*<7gS/8'\Pbpm}okVj*@UC!IgkmZQAO!W[|iBiMs*|)n*`X ]pW%m>Oz_mK^Gdazsr.Z0/JsFS1uF8gBVIoChGwOy{EK=<6g?aHE`[\S]C]T0Wm Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:35:15 -0700 Message-ID: <78045.961122915@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> From: Parag Patel Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:29:53 PDT, Mike Smith wrote: > >By now, based on the timeframe I've watched you >through, I'd say that you should have a board that looks like a plain VGA >framebuffer and has a keyboard cable hung out the back, and software up >and running. Build cost at 100 off would probably be < $100. Yeah, if I were a hardware guy. :) Besides there are other people taking this approach like PC Weasel. >This is a problem, yes, but rewriting the BIOS, bootloader and parts of >the kernel isn't the path of least resistance, IMO. 8) Sure, I know that *now*... :) >If your customer's not _desperate_ for a super-low-cost solution, I'd >suggest any of the Intel boards that offer EMP (most of these also offer >BIOS-over-serial support, actually - as do a number of other vendors, >IIRC AMI do this on some of their boards as well). They're using the Intel boards right now, but with a Sun background they really really want Open Firmware in an x86 box. I think they may end up getting Sun hardware anyway. Anyway, I'd set myself with a 6-month time-limit (while also managing other ports and customer work). This time has pretty much run out, but I'm actually making some small progress for a change and am caught between contracts, so what the heck... -- Parag Patel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message