From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 5 10:40:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D811065670 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35DC8FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id rp8so1881231pbb.13 for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:40:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LB13axtzxNJ30Gw0yKIaHEBzj+//QkIibdBJBIU03dU=; b=cVcUIb+DGCZVe0vnb6fi74Yed1fRaoSZYORxWPR9Gb5s4i2EfrGTm1d+1L3sjvqCGf 76qT45oIw/SiGOCRYup2Jw0hcOiWnOBxyQOolxTo4XNqsgE96EUGLTyo8SX1cHSXZe6t 585s1v15EKZfUO+WnJ2crkNOPer69GhcK+Hz1lnpDgyax0jacq3AyBxaXENqC7v4Tw2u /5OaEdiEWao5kAxENSCkL6qGAaqfHp1XXUW2f+qeTNmXViEry0HFnXbNDUNBV7HvB2q5 MuHIqCTrU/AzhgWoYSQB6vBQ/N9HdSKhQ/BCA9R6VBAb8GmrIXN1NvlHImWcOBfwnMAC 7H/g== Received: by 10.66.78.199 with SMTP id d7mr20448807pax.77.1349433614245; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.128] (mau.donbass.com. [92.242.127.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kr4sm1340721pbc.76.2012.10.05.03.40.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <506EB909.6070404@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 13:40:09 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120924 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20121001143321.461de2b2@scorpio> <506A9E3E.1020209@gmail.com> <506D8F5E.2020800@freebsdnorth.com> <20121004110258.3a188bdb@scorpio> <20121004183002.GB70000@kontrol.kode5.net> <20121004151651.4a7bf445@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20121004151651.4a7bf445@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: flashplugin 11.2r202.238 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:40:15 -0000 04.10.2012 22:16, Jerry wrote: >> Yes, it is a bit of a PITA isn't it. I wish flashplayer could be >> replaced be something better that works on UNIX and all platforms for >> that matter. Maybe HTML 5 will enable people to do without this crap. > > This isn't a matter of replacing it, it is a matter of making it work. > It works fine on Windows and Ubuntu and from what I have been told, > most other flavors of Linux. Therefore it doesn't take a frigging > Einstein to deduce where the problem lies. Of course, it is always > easier to blame the other guy. "Just works" is not about flash plugin and never was. 1. Each update fixes another exploit. What about code quality? Would there be any progress in it? 2. https://github.com/kripken/BananaBread/ works on my computer. Yet my computer is too slow to run flash scrollers. Flash is ancient, slow and ugly. 3. I can run current flash on my computer under windows, but linux version has already dumped my hardware. I ought to stick to older one for flash support. 4. Have you ever tried hitting adobe support forums? Your yell would be forgotten quickly. And FreeBSD never was supported by flash. 5. Adobe sees no future in flash. End of support of npapi for Linux version was already announced. There are a number of projects that try to deal with flash like swfdec, gnash or lightscribe. I still think emscripten is a right way to go. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.