Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 21:48:35 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> To: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> Cc: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? Message-ID: <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] Am Wed, 31 Dec 2014 21:02:35 +0100 Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> schrieb: > El día Wednesday, December 31, 2014 a las 08:30:11PM +0100, O. Hartmann escribió: > > > I've already switched a bunch of Haswell-based notebooks to a Linux system due to the > > lack of iGPU support. It is ridiculous to purchase outdated hardware (IvyBridge and > > less or outdated graphics hardware). > > Is VESA an option for you until Haswell support comes up in FreeBSD? The > question is serious, because I'm on the way to install -HEAD in an Acer C720 > cromebook with Haswell too. > > As well I do run (just for tests) Xorg with VESA on my current netbook > Acer D250 (which has an old Intel chip) and I do not note any > difference. > > matthias On a Lenovo ThinkPad E540/L540 with Haswell i5-4200M or i5-4210M with iGPU 4600 and nVidia 740M Optimus GPU I hadn't success using the VESA driver. The display has a HD resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixel, which seems to make VESA unusable. I had to use x86-video-scfb - which is a pain in the ass: extremely slow, keystrokes sometimes pass through from the console to the graphics screen (it looks like this, I have no better desription for that phenomenon). Under load, X11 is unusable since the CPU has to render the whole screen alone. A similar situation arose with Lenovo ThinkPad X240 with high resolution screens and Haswell/HD4600 iGPU. I'm not familiar with the VESA driver. I left that path due to its resolution limitations. We deal with modern hardware and I'm not willing to purchase outdated hardware for the sake of the OS. On most laptops with Haswell CPUs we migrated to Linux - with great success. As a sideeffect things run more smooth right now. Lenovo offers a new type of WiFi NIC which also isn't supported by FreeBSD. The problem with Lenovo is that their UEFI doesn't allow to simply swap the miniPCIe WiFi NIC for a supported device. With most recent and modern products from Lenovo and FreeBSD (even CURRENT) we ended up dead in the water. In general there is a serious problem with the graphics support in FreeBSD. Recent hardware from AMD and Intel isn't supported, only nVidia offers support via their BLOB. FreeBSD dropped also the nouveau driver. oh [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJUpGEkAAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8tMsIAL/sNGPS1SwREgW+DrqhJOwF 2JTE2Sv+TP8WN/8wjCWj4hsneRUX6TjBPbT2cmcNy/wfRsRjRgvmMnzE6ZjerwaU KI8Z1yykkKM+1uWRBbDtXUQc5DaNvGZWIV8xQPCOPSAzWQOHpNfhPNb+5nTk7h57 czjaqd3KuAncFChvdwNddGD9tnYE6QJwaMwTeRn0vEU6AzGlM5Ppc471tjVvfuJx ideG62TrU6LvJOTuJrOQbIj2lYN03UirlJBvlm3xkfZz3/ORnx98PzCmtTQlWJV0 VmJsqwrrYtYEELGkmfuUJId3MRxZFaZkLI75yahPVdE3NyCpgyhggU3vdONGORo= =5+6+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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