Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:01:28 -0400 From: Charles Sprickman <spork@bway.net> To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Cc: Chuck Tuffli <chuck@tuffli.net>, Mark Saad <nonesuch@longcount.org>, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smart(8) Call for Testing Message-ID: <A548BC90-815C-4C66-8E27-9A6F7480741D@bway.net> In-Reply-To: <1d3f2cef-4c37-782e-7938-e0a2eebc8842@quip.cz> References: <4754cb2f-76bb-a69b-0cf5-eff4d621eb29@callfortesting.org> <CAMXt9NbdN119RrHnZHOJD1T%2BHNLLpzgkKVStyTm=49dopBMoAQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAM0tzX1oTWTa0Nes11yXg5x4c30MmxdUyT6M1_c4-PWv2%2BQbhw@mail.gmail.com> <CAMXt9NYMrtTNqNSx256mcYsPo48xnsa%2BCCYSoeFLzRsc%2BfQWMw@mail.gmail.com> <CAM0tzX32v2-=saT5iB4WVcsoVOtH%2BXE0OQoP7hEDB1xE%2Bxk%2Bsg@mail.gmail.com> <1d3f2cef-4c37-782e-7938-e0a2eebc8842@quip.cz>
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> On Mar 27, 2018, at 12:45 PM, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> = wrote: >=20 > Chuck Tuffli wrote on 2018/03/27 16:32: >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Mark Saad <nonesuch@longcount.org> = wrote: >> ... >>> I was thinking more along the lines of when smartctl reports the = overall-health >>> which is always a good time to read; and very Monty Python-eske >>>=20 >>> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED! >>> Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA. >>>=20 >>> = https://serverfault.com/questions/114196/smart-warns-me-but-i-dont-trust-i= t >> This app is different from others in that it only reports the values; >> it is up to the user / script / etc. to provide analysis. In the >> serverfault example, spin-up time is attribute ID 3. One of my drives >> shows: >> $ smart -t da0 | grep "208 3" >> 208 3 39 0 100 100 1029 >> smartctl shows it as follows >> $ smartctl -A /dev/da0 >> ... >> 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 100 100 001 Pre-fail >> Always - 1029 >> It would be up to the user or script to decide at what point this >> might indicate an imminent failure. >=20 > What is the purpose of this utility and why it should be in base if = almost everyone will need to write something to do the "real job" or = "pkg install smartmontools=E2=80=9D. I have to agree - this is kind of a prior-century tool as far as user = friendliness it seems. What is the goal of this tool? The main use for smartmontools seems to = be to pluck information about the drive and act on some very specific = items (for example, polling the =E2=80=9Cmedia wearout indicator=E2=80=9D = on SSDs is very useful, or read error rates on HDs. But the = smartmontools folks seem to spend a fair amount of time with putting = drive data in their tool so that meaningful data is presented to the = user. Without that level of functionality out of the box, what=E2=80=99s = the argument for this being in base vs. being a 3rd party tool that = lives in the ports tree? Think of the people that answer mailing list = and forum questions when considering adding something like this to = base=E2=80=A6 Again, maybe I=E2=80=99m just missing something or maybe this is here = for a particular vendor that needs it or something. Charles >=20 > Maybe I just don't see something... >=20 > Miroslav Lachman >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-fs@freebsd.org <mailto:freebsd-fs@freebsd.org> mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-fs = <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-fs>; > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-fs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org = <mailto:freebsd-fs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>"
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