From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 23 08:56:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA02525 for current-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA02519; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:56:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA17156; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:56:02 -0800 (PST) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199611231656.IAA17156@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: 2.2-ALPHA install failure In-Reply-To: <199611231117.VAA22545@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from Michael Smith at "Nov 23, 96 09:47:15 pm" To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:56:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: fenner@parc.xerox.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org, phk@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Bill Fenner stands accused of saying: > > decided to install 2.2-ALPHA on it. Although the new install went > > reasonably well, it won't reboot the new disk. I used the "dangerously > > dedicated" mode, so that I wouldn't have to deal with partition tables > > and weird track values and stuff. Woo, was I wrong. The very first > > You are using an NCR controller, or some other SCSI controller that > reads the partition table out of the MBR. The 'dangerously dedicated' > mode won't work with these controllers, as they become _very_ confused > by it. Hummm... that goes contrary to what I have been doing on systems for the last 4 years using NCR controllers. You can use the dangerously dedicated mode on the NCR just fine, and I usually set the drives up this way with a 64/32 translation so that the drive can easily be moved between any of the NCR/Buslogic/Adaptec controllers since they all understand 64/32. The changed behavior in the install programs to do 1/1 translation is what is brain damaged, that causes more grief than I have ever seen, so Rod's Rule when doing a ``dangerously dedicated'' install is to always override the bios geometry with X/64/32, and turn off extended (DOS >1G) translation on adaptec and buslogic cards, the NCR deals with the translation automagically, and in conformance with the SCSI BIOS PnP Spec. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD