From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 09:55:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E8616A4CE for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:55:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA72743D54 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:55:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0T9tkj52808; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:55:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Kris Kennaway" Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:55:44 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <20050128165040.GB90205@xor.obsecurity.org> Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "Michael C. Shultz" Subject: RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:55:48 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Kris Kennaway > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 8:51 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Michael C. Shultz > Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 03:34:46AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > INDEX has been included with every CDROM pressing of FreeBSD 4.x > > previously. And this will be the last 4.X pressing. So, it must > > have required a really severe space > > crunch to justify this significant of a deviation. > > It was probably just forgotten. Talk to the release engineers. > Yes, that is my feeling as well. Glad to see your not using some silly justification to explain that it was deliberately left out. :-) My intent on the initial post was to find out if others were seeing the same thing. Since they are, it's time to e-mail the release people. Unfortunately, though, from the looks of the docs coming out of them, there's little interest in the release team on the 4.xx line anymore so this is probably an exercise in futility. Unfortunately the disappointing thing is that the 3.X release had the same kind of thing happen. The very last 3.X release of FreeBSD had several broken things - notably ESDI support, bad144 no longer worked, even when a few revs earlier it was working fine. Now we are seeing the same thing with 4.11 - a niggly problem that marrs the normally perfect release. I am concerned that if something like INDEX was forgotten, that there's going to be other things forgotten as well. Sigh. We really must learn when to quit on these release trains. 4.10 was a perfect cap on a successful 4.x run. Ted