From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 16:17: 0 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736B137B401; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2234F43FE0; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:16:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown[12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <2003022200165500200sa6k6e>; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:16:55 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1M0FX5F009411; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:15:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h1M0FMfd009408; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:15:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Copying of Developer's Guide References: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> <20030216214612.GA1463@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030219161238.GF6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030220220844.GK6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 21 Feb 2003 16:15:22 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20030220220844.GK6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton writes: > > > 2. Redistribution in compiled form (...), or in print, must > > > reproduce, ... [...] > Me either. But does > > 2. Reproduction or redistribution in print or compiled form, must > ... > > sound better? Yes, BUT... You ought to be a GNU laywer; you've made it sound like you've added the freedom to print, while you've actually only removed some freedoms (namely, at least, the freedom to reproduce without a copyright notice). These conditions must apply, as-is, even to a derivative which is put under a license which does not permit printing; that's one of the main features of BSD-like licenses. Adding the printing permission to only the permission part of the license would allow it to be omitted cleanly (along with any or all other parts of the permission statement) when someone licensed a derivative differently. There's a certain asymmetry to the new version which might not be what you want. It's unclear whether printed source files fall under the first condition or the second condition. The "plurality" of the two conditions now differ. As usual, I wonder whether "and" or "or" should be used; but, as usual, either leaves it subject to misinterpretation; I'm glad IANAL. With or without the change, it sounds slightly nonsensical to have "Redistributions...must reproduce"; one shouldn't have to reproduce anything to redistribute an existing copy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message