From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 14:26:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34E016A4CE for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 14:26:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from heisenberg.zen.co.uk (heisenberg.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0493943D1F for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 14:26:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.177] (helo=crom.vickiandstacey.com) by heisenberg.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B1Ydd-0002U6-1a; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:26:49 +0000 Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i2BMQmuh080979; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:26:48 GMT (envelope-from stacey@crom.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from stacey@localhost) by crom.vickiandstacey.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i2BMQhia080978; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:26:43 GMT (envelope-from stacey) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:26:43 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: Jeremy Messenger Message-ID: <20040311222643.GC338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> References: <1078967224.565.18.camel@localhost> <20040311211702.GA338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <20040311213945.GB338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RIYY1s2vRbPFwWeW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Originating-Heisenberg-IP: [82.68.31.177] cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:26:52 -0000 --RIYY1s2vRbPFwWeW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mezz., ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Messenger " To: To Stacey Roberts Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 22:05 GMT Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up > On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:39:45 +0000, Stacey Roberts=20 > wrote: >=20 > >Hi Mezz., > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jeremy Messenger " > >To: To Stacey Roberts > >Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 21:29 GMT > >Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up > > > >>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:17:03 +0000, Stacey Roberts > >> wrote: > >> > >>>Hello Mezz.., > >>> Thanks for the reply. > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Jeremy Messenger " > >>>To: To stacey@vickiandstacey.com > >>>Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 19:53 GMT > >>>Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up > >>> > >>>>Try to create a new dummy user like tester to see if your GNOME will > >>>>startup faster. If so, then there are something wrong in one of in=20 > >>your > >>>>personal directory like ~/.gnome2, ~/.gconf and etc. You can remove > >>>>these > >>>>directories on your normal user and let GNOME to startup fresh. > >>>> > >>> > >>>No need to, I already have a spare user on the box to use for this. As= =20 > >>I > >>>suspected, logging in with that other user results in a fast Gnome2 > >>>startup. > >> > >>A spare user with no GNOME personal directories? Do you mean, it does > >>login faster on the spare user? > > > >Yes. I often create two users that I can use, but only use one. I've=20 > >never had the need to use any other than my primary user, so when this= =20 > >problem started last night I figured on checking to see if it happens=20 > >for everyone (including root). > > > >As things turned out, both root and the other (spare) user can log in=20 > >fine. > > > >Thought I should also mention that for my primary user (the account for= =20 > >whom the delays occur), I'd already tried the following: - > > > >1] rm -rf .g* > >2] rm -rf .esd* > >3] Ran startx > >4] Gnome2 starts fine > >5] Do nothing > >6] Log off > >7] Run startx again > >8] Long delay in Gnome2 startup > > > >I've done that procedure about four times now, just to make sure I=20 > >wasn't going crazy. >=20 > Umm, if it works fine on root and other users then it must be problem=20 > somewhere in your primary user. So, if you reinstall GNOME and you might= =20 > still have the same problem. :-) Can you try do the full one? Like this: >=20 > rm -rf .ICE* .Trash .Xauth* .gconf* .gnome* .gtk* .esd* .fonts.cache-1=20 > .meta* .nau* .recent* .thumb* .xscreen* Oh.., I didn't try removing those..,=20 >=20 > Also, there have few stuff in the /var/tmp/ like this: >=20 > gconfd-${user} mapping-${user} orbit-${user} >=20 > So, change from ${user} to your primary user then try to remove them. I= =20 > don't know if it will help, but I think it's a worth shot. Also, be sure= =20 > to check in the top or ps to make sure one of GNOME's app exit correct=20 > before you try to do the startx again. This is my last suggest what I can= =20 > think of, before you want to reinstall GNOME. Okay.., check me on this please.., just so I know that I follow: - Here's how I see your instructions set: a] Log off Gnome2 b] run top / ps to verify that all Gnome2 apps have exited cleanly (kill of= f any lingering Gnome2 apps still appearing in top / ps) c] Run rm -rf for .ICE*, .Trash, .Xauth*, .gconf*, .gnome*, .gtk*, .esd*, .= fonts.cache-1, .meta*, .nau*, .recent*, .thumb*, & .xscree* d] Run rm -rf for any instances for gconfd-stacey, mapping-stacey & orbit-s= tacey in /var/tmp e] Run startx Let me know if I've got that procedure correct, please. Thanks again. Regards, Stacey >=20 > Cheers, > Mezz >=20 > >Thanks for the reply, by the way. > > > >Regards, > > > >Stacey > > > >> > >>Cheers, > >>Mezz > >> > >>>>One more thing, make sure your hostname is working. X will startup=20 > >>very > >>>>slow if you don't have the correct hostname. IE: fix the /etc/hosts by > >>>>add > >>>>your hostname in it point on 127.0.0.1. > >>> > >>>This is not a problem. > >>> > >>>What *has* become a problem that I've noticed as well, is the fact that > >>>even attempting to log out of Gnome2 takes almost 5 minutes now too. > >>>This is the time from clicking on "Actions", "Log Out".., desktop locks > >>>up.., five minutes later, the confirmation dialogue box appears. > >>>Clicking on "Okay", results in the log out then proceeding as per=20 > >>normal. > >>> > >>>> > >>>>BTW: reinstall apps aren't always a solution. > >>> > >>>One would think that, but at the end of the day, I'm inclined to > >>>reinstall something that's broken, rather than work with something that > >>>was "hacked back together". The fact that this machine was up and > >>>running well after the reinstall of Gnome back in 2002. > >>> > >>>Thanks again for taking the time. > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>> > >>>Stacey > >>> > >>>> > >>>>Cheers, > >>>>Mezz > >>>> > >>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 01:07:05 +0000, Stacey Roberts > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>Hello, > >>>>> I've just had a strangely familiar problem re-occur with me > >>>>>tonight. > >>>>> > >>>>>For some reason, when I try to start gnome2 (with startx) there is a > >>>>>very long delay before the splash thingy appears - almost 4 minutes.= =20 > >>I > >>>>>mentioned familiar for the simple reason that this exact problem > >>>>>happened to me a couple of years ago, whilst I was running Gnome-1.2= =20 > >>(I > >>>>>think). > >>>>> > >>>>>The short story of the eventual fix for me then was to reinstall=20 > >>Gnome. > >>>>>I am now wondering if anyone is able to help me with this problem now > >>>>>appearing now that I'm running Gnome-2.4.2. > >>>>> > >>>>>I'll include what details I think are relevant here, but if there's= =20 > >>any > >>>>>information I can add, please let me know. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Like I said, if there's anything else I can offer, then let me know. > >>>>> > >>>>>Regards, > >>>>> > >>>>>Stacey > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz. > >> > >> > >>-- > >>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz. > >> >=20 >=20 > --=20 > bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz. >=20 --=20 Stacey Roberts B. 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