From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jan 5 12: 8:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939B937B401 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58B543EC2 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:08:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21627; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:08:01 -0700 (MST) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20030105130229.029271d0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 13:07:58 -0700 To: Terry Lambert From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter. Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" , Mike Jeays , chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3E188E95.63FA837@mindspring.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030104193110.0285a570@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104145840.02925620@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104131212.03837e10@localhost> <3E120659.3D60EB30@mindspring.com> <200212312041.gBVKfr183480@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> <3E120659.3D60EB30@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104112015.026a5530@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104131212.03837e10@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104145840.02925620@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104193110.0285a570@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030105121306.02936b00@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:59 PM 1/5/2003, Terry Lambert wrote: >My personal take is that license matters for strategic code, but >does not matter at all for tactical code. It matters in both cases. If "tactical" code is GPLed, you can't look at it or fix it, and the GPL will extinguish alternatives. >SAMBA is an example of tactical code; if you are building a small >office server, and need to offer CIFS access to it to be competitive, >you might as well use SAMBA to do it: the code itself is relatively >independent of all other code, and you aren't going to gain any >competitive advantage out of using it. So it might as well be GPL'ed. I strongly disagree. The fact that SAMBA is GPLed prevents its use to develop competitive operating systems that interact well with Microsoft clients. Thus, SAMBA (perversely) preserves Microsoft's monopoly on commercial operating systems. We recently needed to set up a file repository for a business, and because SAMBA is GPLed, we used WebDAV. We're very happy with that solution. And we can look at the code of mod_dav, because it's under a truly free license. >> When you are infected by and propagate a virus, you are, in effect, >> performing an involuntary service for it. The same is true when >> you use, promote, propagate, or decline to seek an alternative to >> GPLed software. You're being used, whether you know it or not. One >> of the most insidious effects is that you may not promote the creation >> of a truly free alternative. > >This being California, I know people who say the same thing about >"Y" chromosomes... that doesn't make it true... 8-) There's a reason why Dawkins' book was called "The Selfish Gene." Alas, memes are even more selfish than genes. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message