From owner-freebsd-current Sat Dec 22 0:13:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (0x3ef31288.albnxx2.adsl.tele.dk [62.243.18.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C6637B417 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 00:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBM8ETd42171; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 09:14:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 09:14:29 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: Julian Stacey Cc: Matthew Dillon , Joe Halpin , "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: spam In-Reply-To: <200112211610.fBLGATc85876@jhs.muc.de> Message-ID: <20011222090542.E95956-100000@arnold.neland.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Julian Stacey wrote: > > I can only hope that our illustrious congress has grown as tired of > > spam as I have and will fix the law to simply ban it. > > -Matt > > That would help, (most SPAM I receive even in Germany is from USA), but > spammers would move offshore from USA & still target us, just as most German > language spamming is now from countries outside Germany, so presumably German > language spammers pay foreign intermediaries or subsidiaries to spam. > > Hostile counter attacks could supplement laws & filtering ... > - I got a panic stricken international phone call from a UK > spammer near where I used to live, after I mailed & threatened > to report him to local police &/or launch net attacks on his facilities. > - Anyone know of PD sourced tools & indexes that automate co-ordination > of hostile counter attacks on identified spammers ? > Don't counterattack, you have to be 250% sure the server is the spammers own, and his alone. What if the spammer either is just a client, or has broken into the server? It is not legal to break your neigbours house, even if it is to shut down his 500W stereo. I believe somebody got into serious trouble by launching a worm, which closed holes other worms could use. > PS Maybe if we were to regularly automatically scramble all email addresses > in our web searchable mail archives ? just inserting ._ErAsE_ThIs_. in every > email address would protect us from easy harvesting by simple spammer robots. Yeah, that would help for 3 months or so. Then the harvesters will be adapted. The way to go, I think is procmail based content filters, and dnsbl, like spamcop. I report many spams to spamcop. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message