From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 19:59:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E111106567A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F858FC16 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-current@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1ScMOb-0002x4-Sp>; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:59:58 +0200 Received: from e178039106.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.39.106] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-current@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1ScMOb-00060y-Mx>; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:59:57 +0200 Message-ID: <4FCFB6B5.9080905@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:59:49 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <4FCEFCBE.4050401@digsys.bg> <3668749.rHy9RI2eRn@x220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig78469E5B2F0E9307D9EEF11D" X-Originating-IP: 85.178.39.106 Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:59:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig78469E5B2F0E9307D9EEF11D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/06/12 16:15, Chris Rees wrote: > On 6 June 2012 14:48, Erich Dollansky = wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 06 June 2012 9:21:22 Sean Cavanaugh wrote: >>> >>> Overall I see it as packages are flat stable at the cost of being out= of >>> date, and ports are current but not guaranteed to compile without >>> intervention. The Maintainers do give a very good shot to make them s= table >>> but sometimes one person cannot maintain millions of lines of code an= d not >>> make a glitch occasionally, or make it out on time when a dependency >>> changes. >> >> isn't the date of the packages the date of the last release of the bra= nch? Aren't the chances high then to get a working ports tree? >> >> You can follow the discussion about this subject for at least 10 years= back. The result is always the same. >> >> In parallel is the discussion why so little people are using FreeBSD. >> >> Do you understand what I want to say? >=20 > I do understand it, but you don't seem to understand that we *do* > understand what you're saying. >=20 > - Tagged ports trees contain out of date software. This is the implicite nature of a tag and - I presume - intended. >=20 > - Security fixes cannot be backported to tagged trees- we *do* *not* > *have* *resources* for this. The "user" has the choice: either stay with an outdated port's tree OR with a uptodate port's tree, but the risk of non working ports. >=20 > - Occasionally you may see minor issues when following the latest > branch of ports. This is the price you pay for being up to date, with > the very latest of software. Those "minor" issues are, having the recent mess in front of my eyes, a simple "negative exaggeration". What is that "price worth", if the system is faulting and rendered useless or partially useless? >=20 > Chris --------------enig78469E5B2F0E9307D9EEF11D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPz7a9AAoJEOgBcD7A/5N87voH/Ry+PqeHsFOkC73QCQlA1anM kMHdHmnDqWKg5DnVgJcJm5f9eNzldKFThdKQxl3daPVWJeh0bHE1r7zpms75SY85 +gEgdgl80p5RQZnwHxiIv5DCAeYpG/f5+QxleCQvX1CqT+Bf1G9Qn8m4ygV2KNrz Jpg7YtUPqEGMvarvTUJEAKUEoBoz8EXct93CiHKzsmZXFIPB4TR5RECKjZDOb350 zoJRv2ZtdHWgxQshH1qz014/jiTqC6SgwNUzk4uJDR+9HkGOrxViACaX7EGbLn5f J+Ih34i6P9i/7z2WjLEwzcf/enQi+W6/esxUGarPwxGl9QTBv6QmtYkPYi+jkk4= =HEVP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig78469E5B2F0E9307D9EEF11D--