From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 13 16:15:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39FE16A403 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906C144175 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:07:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 23339 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2006 16:07:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp1.knology.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2006 16:07:22 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id D1FCB28420; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:07:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:07:21 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Lonnie Cumberland Message-ID: <20061113160721.GA35576@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <454E9F7B.5010105@outstep.com> <454F210C.9000602@outstep.com> <004001c70706$0d571ec0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20061113143818.GA34908@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <1648.129.6.99.176.1163430200.squirrel@mail.outstep.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1648.129.6.99.176.1163430200.squirrel@mail.outstep.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAC OS X connection to FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:15:32 -0000 On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 09:03:20AM -0600, Lonnie Cumberland wrote: > > I am still somewhat confused as I have been looking at FreeBSD which I > think is VERY good and have also recently been able to boot up the > OpenDarwin 7.2.1 as well, but never could get the Darwin 8.1 cdrom to > install. If your desire is to purchase a commercially supported server then an Apple Xserve would be hard to beat. I think you misunderstand the purpose of Darwin and would be better served with FreeBSD. > If I follow these messages correctly then it appears that FreeBSD is > just as good as Darwin although I had expected that the inclusion of > the CM kernel integrated with the FreeBSD kernel along with various > other improvements would have made the Darwin software better. I think you are spending too much time keeping score on minute details and not enough time on the big picture. > One thing that I can tell at the moment is that the FreeBSD OS seems > to have better support for hardware since Darwin (Apple) if very > specifically targeted to chosen hardware and also they seem to use > these Carbon libraries for getting things to run which I do not kow > where to locate more information on them. No, Carbon has almost nothing to do with Darwin. Carbon is the API which runs on top of Darwin (not a part of). Aqua is implemented in Carbon, Carbon runs on top of Darwin. Carbon is not a part of Darwin. > I would still like to do some more testing to get a better feel for > what Darwin can offer, but the bottom line is that all of these are > directly related to FreeBSD and are stable and fast compared to other > non-FreeBSD related OS's. Testing: good idea. Speed: the slowest machine is one that is down. Top-posting: Frowned upon among traditional technical communities. You'll get more out of these communities if you learn how to trim replies and insert your comments in the appropriate places. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.