From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 17 23:15: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles71.castles.com [208.214.165.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9C510E3B for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:14:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03755; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902180710.XAA03755@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Brett Glass Cc: Mike Smith , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Walnut Creek, Where Are You? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:06:47 MST." <4.1.19990217234718.0401de40@mail.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:10:11 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At 10:09 PM 2/17/99 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > >Brett, I take back everything I said about offering you hardware to > >write drivers with. If you're that far behind the ball with the way > >that PCI works, it wouldn't be even vaguely economical. > > It has nothing to do with PCI. A probe for something else ENTIRELY > could be mucking things up. Uh, no. Or at least, if it did, the machine would not be on the market. What we do when it comes to probing is an order of magnitude less offensive than what Microsoft and Linux do. > This is why one of the first things you should try -- if you haven't > already -- is disabling nonessential, seemingly unrelated drivers in > the kernel. If you're lucky, you'll find that removing one of them > mysteriously makes the problem go away. If you're not, you'll have > to check for other problems such as race conditions, etc. I'd have > to observe the problem occurring, and perhaps single-step the > machine through the problem code while looking at the spec sheet, to > develop other ideas. Thanks for "hardware newbie 101" Brett, but no, I know what isn't happening, and what you're thinking of (port mirroring) has already been dismissed. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message