From owner-freebsd-current Mon Dec 16 23:43:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E5F37B401; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8A643ED8; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:43:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6/Sunbay) with ESMTP id gBH7gfkf096211 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:42:41 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBH7gann096196; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:42:36 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:42:35 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Cc: Terry Lambert , Alex , phk@FreeBSD.ORG, Johnson David , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 80386 out of GENERIC Message-ID: <20021217074235.GA95679@sunbay.com> References: <24244.1039900460@critter.freebsd.dk> <9710634521.20021214232526@dds.nl> <3DFC0AB1.D60AAF66@mindspring.com> <20021215223540.GB97271@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021215223540.GB97271@wantadilla.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 09:05:40AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Saturday, 14 December 2002 at 20:53:05 -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Alex wrote: > >> It means that you can not install FreeBSD on a 386 unless you have a > >> 486+ machine that can compile a new FreeBSD system and have a way to > >> get that version to the 386. > > > > Yes, this is true. Several of us were annoyed by the change, > > which appeared at the time to have been done solely to handle > > the fact that the newly installed device /dev/random sucked > > too much CPU time to work on a 386. >=20 > That's an interesting apparition. In fact, it was done because the > locking primitives for i386 are so different from those for later > machines that they would significantly slow down all i[>3]86 kernels. > Since that's the vast majority, it doesn't make sense. >=20 > I suppose it would be a good idea to include an alternatvie i386 > kernel on the CD-ROM. There may be a space issue, of course. How > many people participating in this thread have an i386 with at least 12 > MB of memory and intended to try 5.0 on it? How many of those don't > have a machine to bootstrap off? >=20 Having only alternative i386 kernel is not enough while userland stuff is still compiled for i486. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9/tVrUkv4P6juNwoRAl9dAKCIGlFooxhP6bEHYmuNyICUa6Jx7gCeLtq1 PA8LBexTWxAOglBMGlVjRks= =lfaA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message