From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 8 19:45:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800B1106564A; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 19:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1B58FC14; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 19:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so3331910gwb.13 for ; Mon, 08 Aug 2011 12:45:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=l3zrw8AdvxB24R0SNs4jrUbAWWouhjo9OLmx0EMEAM8=; b=GIMoWrIJFjLxzBLUOr9mTb0scbDbqZBVdoc7NasTz3w9fCLnN2YczXxAg3I0u4340K N9E9dtY0C44qpkg5NroVbg9Qsg6du7HgoAtlRIhCzREEMkxYts56FZUk1N4aJoysglh5 PkzbQ0dsye+CHkijqKyNWvZud52iyvwzA1HJ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.11.9 with SMTP id 9mr6126290ybk.69.1312832740298; Mon, 08 Aug 2011 12:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.97.3 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 12:45:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110808063355.GB982@lonesome.com> References: <201108061718.p76HI2eY050723@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20110808063355.GB982@lonesome.com> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 12:45:40 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kevin Oberman To: Mark Linimon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Garrett Wollman , nwhitehorn@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New installation script X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:45:41 -0000 On Aug 7, 2011 11:49 PM, "Mark Linimon" wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 01:18:02PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > I initially chose "traditional Unix workstation", which was unusable. > > (Never did find the control or escape key, which made vi particularly > > difficult to use.) > > It should probably be labeled "old-fart Unix user" which would have > instantly told me that it put the Control key back in the pre-IMB-PC > location (where the idiotic and counter-productive 'Caps Lock' key is > now, sigh). > > But that battle was lost several decades ago. And it all happened so that Microsoft could squash Wordstar (or, was it Word Perfect). I still create my own .kbd file to do what I want. the us.unix has several oddities, like swapping hte key with the accent grave that I don't care for. I even re-map the CapsLock key on my Windows system. The war may be over, but my little battle will end only when I can't hack a keyboard layout any more. I will also mention that Gnome has the re-mapping available in System->Preferences->Keyboard Layout Options. In fact, you can either swap CapsLock and Ctrl_L or replace CapsLock with Ctrl_L. This proves I am not the only one refusig to give in to MS. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Retired kob6558@gmail.com