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Date:      Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:42:19 -0700
From:      "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" <michaelv@HeadCandy.com>
To:        Jamie Bowden <bowden@cs.odu.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>, Marty Leisner <leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com>, Craig Shaver <craig@progroup.com>
Subject:   Re: Opinions? NT VS UNIX, NT SUCKS SOMETIMES 
Message-ID:  <199607201842.LAA24236@MindBender.HeadCandy.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 20 Jul 96 14:35:41 -0400. <Pine.3.91.960720143207.642C-100000@zaxxon.cs.odu.edu> 

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>> >my prefered OS.  It reminds me of NeXT in serious way : better hope your 
>> >GUI doesn't ever get screwed, cause if it does, so do you.

>> Well, I've had XFree86 crash or hang my NetBSD machine more than once,
>> so I guess that goes for a lot of systems... ;-)

>Um, no....I can boot my freebsd, netbsd, solaris, irix, etc. box to a 
>usable command line.  NT has a command line, but you can't boot to it (if 
>memory is correct), and neither does NeXT.  NeXT is kinda neat.  Except 
>for that whole 'GUI, GUI, and nothing but GUI' thing.  

Ah, that's different than your GUI getting screwed.  To me, that means
a crash.  Recovery is a separate thing because it generally doesn't
start up under your normal NT kernel.

But yes, this is a point I have lamented for quite some time.  A real,
useful NT command line accessible from "single-user" boot would be a
Very Good Thing.  On the other hand, you can approximate this by
putting your boot partition on FAT instead of NTFS, and booting into
DOS.  But that only gets you part way there, since real NT utilities
won't run that way.

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