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Date:      Sat, 23 Sep 1995 20:09:41 +0800 (WST)
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@jhome.DIALix.COM>
To:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
Cc:        Satoshi Asami <asami@cs.berkeley.edu>, CVS-commiters@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-games@freefall.freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/games/x11/xneko xneko.c 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.950923200203.320G-100000@jhome.DIALix.COM>
In-Reply-To: <199509231153.NAA11693@grumble.grondar.za>

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On Sat, 23 Sep 1995, Mark Murray wrote:
> >  * >   Modified:    games/x11/xneko  xneko.c
> > 
> >  * Just out of interest: What are X programs doing in the FreeBSD distributio
> n?
> >  * should they not be in ports?
> > 
> > Apparently (according to the cvs logs), they came with the 4.4-Lite
> > tape.  But I agree with you, it doesn't make much sense to have these
> > in the main source tree when we don't have X in there! ;)
> > 
> > And if you just want a cute demo...well, xneko maybe, but xroach is
> > nothing short of "disgusting". :<
> 
> I _love_ xroach! I have got some very satisfying (female) screams from
> running it! :-> :-> :->

Likewise..  IMHO, *all* of the games should go to "ports". :-)

> > I propose to move them to ports.
> 
> Seconded.

The only problem is that there's no real mechanism for actually providing 
a complete "kit", including packaging, source and the works.  The only 
way we can make a port out of it, is to make a tar.gz of the source as it 
currently stands and then put it on freefall's ftp area.

It'd be really nice if there was an easy, sanctioned way of including an
entire (SMALL!!) source tree somehow with the port, perhaps under
files/source/*? We could do away with patches, as we could just cvs commit
directly into the source. 

With some clever makefile trickery, it may be possible to build 
everything under "work", referring to the source files without havng to 
copy or link them.

IMHO, packaging it up into "LOCAL_PORTS" on freefall is pretty gross.  On 
the other hand, it'd be a shame to bloat the size of the ports collection.

Things like "sup" could also be done as a "complete source" port, perhaps.

Thoughts?  (yes, I know this would be a slight shift in paradigm, I think 
it would be better, providing it wasn't abused.)

-Peter

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