From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 8 21:36:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073931065678 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 21:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95968FC21 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 21:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fQug1e00416AWCUAFZcSzT; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 21:36:26 +0000 Received: from stargazer.midnightbsd.org ([70.91.226.201]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fZcQ1e00A4MLobJ8SZcR1T; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 21:36:26 +0000 Received: from lholt-desktop.primemediaanalysis.com (75-151-13-201-Michigan.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [75.151.13.201]) (authenticated bits=0) by stargazer.midnightbsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o68LaJ0w066172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 8 Jul 2010 17:36:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stargazer.midnightbsd.org: Host 75-151-13-201-Michigan.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [75.151.13.201] claimed to be lholt-desktop.primemediaanalysis.com Message-ID: <4C3644D1.6000407@foolishgames.com> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:36:17 -0400 From: Lucas Holt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100707 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Jeremy References: <4C34C5DE.7040007@aldan.algebra.com> <20100708210611.GA34250@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20100708210611.GA34250@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Mikhail T." , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.x grudges X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 21:36:27 -0000 On 07/08/10 17:06, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2010-Jul-07 14:22:22 -0400, "Mikhail T." wrote: > >> In no particular order: >> >> 1. >> A picture, that one of the systems was displaying at boot (and >> then used as a screen-saver), stopped showing properly. The >> colors are right, but the picture is distorted beyond recognition. >> The relevant part of loader.conf is: >> >> splash_pcx_load="YES" >> vesa_load="YES" >> bitmap_load="YES" >> bitmap_name="/boot/187426-9-quokka-dreaming.pcx" >> > It's a bit difficult to provide any useful input without some idea > of what the picture should and does look like. Can you please post > the actual bitmap as well as a picture of your screen showing the > problem. > > >> 3. >> Likewise, having "device ugen" breaks config(8) -- another >> undocumented incompatibility. >> > Can you please advise where it is documented that "device ugen" > is valid in a FreeBSD-8 config file? > NAME ugen -- USB generic device support SYNOPSIS To compile this driver into the kernel, place the following line in your kernel configuration file: device ugen Alternatively, to load the driver as a module at boot time, place the following line in loader.conf(5): ugen_load="YES" DESCRIPTION The ugen driver provides support for all USB devices that do not have a special driver. It supports access to all parts of the device, but not in a way that is as convenient as a special purpose driver. There can be up to 127 USB devices connected to a USB bus. Each USB device can have up to 16 endpoints. Each of these endpoints will commu- uname -a FreeBSD lholt-desktop.primemediaanalysis.com 8.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue May 25 20:54:11 UTC 2010 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I'm not going to argue in favor of any points in this rant, but it is in the man page. As someone who's done some release engineering and worked with sysinstall on my own project, I can tell you it's a real pain and developers in the FreeBSD community deserve courtesy. Most of us work on open source for free in our own time, and it's impossible to test every possible configuration before a release. Luke