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Date:      Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:08:13 +0900 (JST)
From:      Hiroki Sato <hrs@FreeBSD.org>
To:        melifaro@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r238277 - in head: etc/defaults etc/rc.d sbin/ipfw share/man/man5 sys/netinet/ipfw
Message-ID:  <20120709.170813.339720376082380726.hrs@allbsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <4FFA894D.9050104@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201207090716.q697GJ7A001973@svn.freebsd.org> <4FFA894D.9050104@FreeBSD.org>

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"Alexander V. Chernikov" <melifaro@FreeBSD.org> wrote
  in <4FFA894D.9050104@FreeBSD.org>:

me> On 09.07.2012 11:16, Hiroki Sato wrote:
me> > Author: hrs
me> > Date: Mon Jul  9 07:16:19 2012
me> > New Revision: 238277
me> > URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/238277
me> >
me> > Log:
me> >    Make ipfw0 logging pseudo-interface clonable.  It can be created
me> >    automatically
me> >    by $firewall_logif rc.conf(5) variable at boot time or manually by
me> >    ifconfig(8)
me> >    after a boot.
me> >
me> >    Discussed on:	freebsd-ipfw@
me> Em, well, I thought "discussed" means some kind of consensus?
me> There was an alternative implementation proposed in -ipfw with no
me> comments from you side. Additionally, there can be other (still not
me> discussed) solutions like making this interface as loadable module
me> (like pf do).

 I meant there was no strong objection.  I am sorry for not commenting
 your implementation, but at least for ipfw0 it is difficult to
 decouple ifnet and bpf because the primary consumer is tcpdump(8),
 which depends on NET_RT_IFLIST to find the target.  Probably your
 solution can be used for usbdump(8).  The reason why I committed the
 patch now is there are reports that these pseudo interfaces made some
 applications confused and/or caused some performance degradation on
 9.0R, and wanted to fix it in some way.

 I am still open for more sophisticated implementation and have no
 objection to replace mine with it.  Do you have an idea about
 converting it with a loadable module?

-- Hiroki

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