From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 17:51:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770AF16A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:51:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from thmailsite3.services.byworkwise.com (thmailsite1.services.byworkwise.com [217.28.130.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8743743D2D for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:51:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex@hightemplar.com) Received: from hydralisk (unverified [212.150.124.244]) by freenet.co.uk for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:42:52 +0100 From: Alex Keahan To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 19:45:03 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <34301.1088242340@critter.freebsd.dk> <200406261336.26051.alex@hightemplar.com> <20040626125907.5b5b3ae7.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20040626125907.5b5b3ae7.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200406261945.03932.alex@hightemplar.com> Subject: Re: HEADSUP: ibcs2 and svr4 compat headed for history X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:51:25 -0000 On Saturday 26 Jun 2004 1:59 pm, Miguel Mendez wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:36:25 +0300 > Alex Keahan wrote: > > Hi, > > > Is Solaris/x86 supported by ibcs2 or svr4? Solaris/x86 is being > > actively developed by Sun and is far from extinct. > > Solaris/x86 is a niche product. And Sun seems to change their mind about > Sol/x86 every other week. This used to be the case, but not anymore. Sun are now fully committed to expanding the use of Solaris on Intel. > (They also do that wrt opensourcing java and Solaris) The Java source code is available. The source code to Solaris 8 has also been available for several years now. Ok, so it's not BSD-licensed, but it's certainly good enough to find the proper remedy to improve the failing SVR4 compatibility code instead of axing it. > > - Latest Java SDKs for Solaris/x86 > > Use the linux version? Perhaps. > > - Forte C/C++ optimising compilers for Solaris/x86 (which may some day > > be used to compile FreeBSD kernel) > > As someone who has used that one, I'd rather use Intel's ICC. Forte's > not that a great compiler. I beg to differ. > > - Sun ONE servers for Solaris/x86 (e.g. iPlanet LDAP) > > Again, Linux versions. Not everything is available for Linux, you know. > > - Oracle for Solaris/x86 > > Same as above. > > > - Numerous third-party applications for SCO and Solaris/x86 > > (e.g. backup solutions) > > All enterprise apps from Legato/Veritas/whathaveyou have Linux versions. Not all of them. My DLT drive came with a CD chock-full of backup software for HP-UX, AIX and SCO UnixWare, but none for Linux. > Now, having Solaris compat on *Sparc*, that can be useful Indeed. The removal of compat/svr4 and dev/streams will likely preclude it from ever working on the SPARC platform. > but on x86? Not by a long shot. Yes, on x86. Call it "niche", but unfortunately Solaris/x86 is the only real alternative to Linux on SMP hardware at the moment. As much as I'd love to use FreeBSD-5 instead, it's just not quite there yet. Alex