From owner-freebsd-chat Sun May 14 10: 1:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from bachue.usc.unal.edu.co (bachue.usc.unal.edu.co [168.176.3.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093A937BDD8 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 10:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from giffunip@asme.org) Received: from asme.org ([200.41.111.152]) by bachue.usc.unal.edu.co (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA457B; Sun, 14 May 2000 11:59:51 -0400 Message-ID: <391ED927.B9EA52A4@asme.org> Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 11:49:43 -0500 From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" Organization: Universidad Nacional de Colombia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "G. Adam Stanislav" Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why are people against GNU? WAS Re: 5.0 already? References: <3.0.6.32.20000513182440.00892db0@mail85.pair.com> <3.0.6.32.20000513225331.0089d150@mail85.pair.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "G. Adam Stanislav" wrote: > > At 19:51 13-05-2000 -0700, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > standard corporate lawyering includes the adoption of these > >agreements as a standard company policy. those that do not agree are > >encouraged to seek employment elsewhere. > > Which is why I work as a nursing assistant. I was not willing to sign my > brains away and was subsequently "laid off" and could not get another > programming job anywhere in Pittsburgh (where I lived at the time). > Good thing that I am a *Mechanical* Engineer. Companies here have a note on their contract that states that you have a position of "responsability" in the organization. This responsability implicitly means that you might have to stay extra time or even work on Saturdays and Sundays. Bank employees are especially exploited by these contracts. Eventually, I completely turned around the rule..I got off early because I had already fulfilled my responsabilities. I worked very hard but my time was so well organized my boss thought the job could be redistributed among his other engineers and my contract was not renewed. Nowadays I laugh thinking of the amount of problems he probably brought on to the company in his search for efficiency. As I see it today, companies don't own your time, they want the results of your work. Any staff manager that wants to see his employees working ALL the time should have a careful reading of "The Goal". If you want to keep your patent, I doubt anyone will notice if you keep a low quality implementation for the company and a better "experimental" version for yourself. Yes, you are hiding your best abilities from the company..but if the company is not treating you in a friendly manner anyway. cheers, Pedro. > All that after three major computer industry employment agencies felt sure > they'd have no way finding an excellent job for a programmer with my > experience. > > Adam > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message