From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 23:01:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9EF106566C for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 23:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danallen46@airwired.net) Received: from mail.utahbroadband.com (mail.utahbroadband.com [204.14.20.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBBF8FC19 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 23:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danallen46@airwired.net) Received: (qmail 1718 invoked by uid 89); 3 Sep 2008 22:28:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.16?) (danallen46@airwired.net@66.29.174.6) by 0 with ESMTPA; 3 Sep 2008 22:28:09 -0000 Message-Id: <0497DBEF-6DC8-4DDD-9ED4-EAD9188D660C@airwired.net> From: Dan Allen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, phill@sysctl.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:01:31 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:01:34 -0000 Phillip Salzman wrote: > An easy answer would be to put the web-browser and such the first > disk, but > I don't think it would solve anything. If it kept with those, > FreeBSD would > find itself just moving towards the same work being done at PC-BSD, > wouldn't > it? When I see almost 200 MB free on disc1 of 7.0, and I remember the handy apps & pkgs which used to be on past releases of FreeBSD, I do not see it as moving towards PC-BSD as much as I see it as going back to what FreeBSD used to have just a few releases ago. In truth, for workstations and laptops at least, most of us do want a web browser. Not having a decent web browser out of the box in 2008 after 15 years of web browser development gives BSD a really archaic look and feel. We all know that BSD is the best, most solid OS out there - but occasionally we need to do a bit of marketing, we need to show our stuff to let others see that "we get it". Dan