From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 25 02:52:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFEF3197; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EF66159D; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jre-mbp.elischer.org (ppp121-45-232-70.lns20.per1.internode.on.net [121.45.232.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1P2qpOT051236 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:52:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <530C057D.3050202@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:52:45 +0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent References: <20140223211155.GS1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <942222.61849.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <942222.61849.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Julio Merino X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 02:52:57 -0000 On 2/24/14, 7:47 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I never got far enough with DragonFlyBSD or OpenBSD on live USB to see osmpd or opensmtpd (OpenBSD or dma (DragonFly). > > I couldn't read hard drive from either OpenBSD or DragonFly, could read OpenBSD but not DragonFly live USB stick from FreeBSD and NetBSD, meaning poor interoperability on my system. > > But I find sendmail practically impossible to setup, and rather useless for my purposes. > > I use msmtp and mpop from ports for SMTP and POP3 mail, including SSL capability. These clients even allow multiple email accounts and multiple users, user name need not necessarily be the same as computer hostname. > > I've wondered if I'd lose anything by building FreeBSD WITHOUT_SENDMAIL. > > I looked and found mail/dma in FreeBSD ports tree. Could it be easily set up to use as SMTP client? > > I don't believe BSD users use base system of itself to send and receive email. They use ports (FreeBSD) or equivalent in other BSDs. I do (though recompiling with SASL and TLS was a pain in the neck. > Can't really say for Linux; "base system" is ill-defined given the anarchy of many different distributions. > > To Julio Merino: How long did NetBSD include both sendmail and postfix in base? What NetBSD releases? What was the first release that included both sendmail and postfix, and the first release where sendmail was dropped? > > But I think sendmail is still available in pkgsrc for users who'd rather have sendmail. > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >