From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 2 6:21:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94ADA37BB60 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:21:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 2657 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2000 13:21:28 -0000 Received: from pc19f5d45.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (193.159.93.69) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 2 Aug 2000 13:21:28 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07893 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:48:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:48:19 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 Message-ID: <20000802064819.W24476@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000801155735.B97403@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us>; from chris@fedde.littleton.co.us on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:03:57PM -0600 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 14:03 -0600, Chris Fedde wrote: > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:57:35 +0100 Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > > On the contrary - I find it a complete godsend. It makes > > replacing the standard sendmail with a port/package and > > absolute breeze. It's far nicer than having each port hack > > around in /usr/sbin for no good reason. > > My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in > existance to allow switching between MTA. The rc.conf > mechinism works well and is consistant for all other components > of the system. In this one case we add a layer of indirection > below rc.conf. MUAs don't know about rc.conf. :) > Why not simply use something like > > mta_enable="YES" > mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail > or > mta_ena > mta=/usr/sbin/qmail > > and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this That's just starting the SMTP daemon. What about sending local / remote mail using the usual "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -t" command line? What has been said before: Try to use something different from sendmail and suddenly you will see what mailwrapper is good for! Or try to use a different sendmail from what comes with the base system (like from ports or "self produced and bottled") while still updating your base. I would even dare to say NO_MAILWRAPPER(sp?) shouldn't be there and there should be /etc/mail/mailer.conf only instead of NO_SENDMAIL, but that's for traditional reasons I guess. Installing your mailer _anywhere_ and using mailer.conf as the only resource to tell which one to use would be the easiest and most flexible solution IMO for _everybody_ -- or did I miss something? Where is this mechanism still not enough? I can't think of a situation. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message