From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 14 8:54:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E12B37B424 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:54:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4EFsNP03504 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 11:54:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200105141554.f4EFsNP03504@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: increasingly frustrated with trn From: "Richard E. Hawkins" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:54:23 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This program has made a backwards leap in usability worthy of mjicrosoft! Why not take a program that people have been using for twenty years and change from a usable interface to a "any idiot can use it, but we're going to force you to use the idiot's interface." *grr* "most people . . . will want"? I don't know if this "most" is true, but it certainly isn't true of those who use *nix by preference. Once I set something, *especially* of the "don't use this new idiot's interface" variety, it should stay set. It should *not* assume that I will regress towards infancy or newbiehood between uses. Damnit, I was using its predecessors before "newbie" was generally used in this context. I've gone through the manpage twice, and still can't find a way to make that newsgroup selector go away and stay away--the information on supressing the list of groups with new messages is there, but not this. It seems that unless I put every single newsgroup in my .newsrc, it is going to ask me to subscribe to them every single time I start up, forcing me to backtick out. *arg* ok, rant over hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message