From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 28 07:57:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209B5106564A for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 07:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from janm@transactionware.com) Received: from midgard.transactionware.com (mail2.transactionware.com [203.14.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A05FA8FC08 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 07:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28991 invoked by uid 907); 28 Jul 2011 07:57:54 -0000 Received: from jmmacpro.transactionware.com (HELO jmmacpro.transactionware.com) (192.168.1.33) by midgard.transactionware.com (qpsmtpd/0.82) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:57:54 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Jan Mikkelsen In-Reply-To: <20110727165520.GA15633@icarus.home.lan> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:57:52 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7504B95C-F76E-4817-AA83-683907B247F8@transactionware.com> References: <20110725093432.GI1202@home.opsec.eu> <20110726225557.GA97184@icarus.home.lan> <20110727101234.GA7659@icarus.home.lan> <20110727165520.GA15633@icarus.home.lan> To: Jeremy Chadwick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Cc: Tom Evans , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA 6g 4-port non-RAID controller ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 07:57:58 -0000 Hi, On 28/07/2011, at 2:55 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> [ =85 ] >> Perhaps I'm being thick, but this says "a 16x slot on this board does = not support a display card" not "a 16x slot on this board only supports = a display card." >>=20 >> The examples you cite only support the "vice-versa" part of your = claim, not the primary claim that 16x slots on some motherboards are = only for display cards. Do you have a reference for that? >=20 > You're not being thick. I'm simply using what's in the manual as a > hard, validated example that the *type* of card that goes into a PCIe > x16 slot can matter, and that some types are compatible while others = are > not. >=20 > I cannot find you a hard documented reference for my claims right now, > so you can consider them lies/FUD/whatever for the time being, that's > fine by me at this point. >=20 > I can find you examples on Google of people who invested in Areca > ARC-1220 cards (PCIe x8) only to find out that when inserted into one = of > their two PCIe x16 slots the mainboard wouldn't start (see above). I = can > also find you examples on Google of people with Intel 915GM chipsets > whose user manuals explicitly state the PCIe x16 slot on their board = is > "intended for use with graphics cards only". Just trying to understand; I think I can recall reading about issues = with the 915 chipset. I agree a "check, don't assume" warning is = reasonable. Regards, Jan.