From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue May 2 7:47:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from wondermutt.net (host75-157.student.udel.edu [128.175.75.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1312C37B55B for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:47:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@jpepconsulting.com) Received: from morgaine.jpepconsulting.com (morgaine.wondermutt.net [192.168.1.2]) by wondermutt.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16059; Tue, 2 May 2000 10:48:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john@jpepconsulting.com) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000502103522.00ab5320@mail.udel.edu> X-Sender: john@mail.jpepconsulting.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 10:43:06 -0400 To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" , "Sean Kelly" From: John Papalia Subject: Re: FreeBSD and IRC Cc: "Ron Rosson" , In-Reply-To: <002d01bfb3fb$a2e5de00$5a5d0418@vista1.sdca.home.com> References: <20000501183644.A75942@lunatic.oneinsane.net> <000901bfb3f8$c6d6f220$5a5d0418@vista1.sdca.home.com> <20000502005033.A68966@edgemaster.zombie.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Just thinking aloud here, but when the #FreeBSD channel was made, the >founders > > should have known that people who needed help would randomly try to join a > > #freebsd channel and ask for help. Wouldn't a more logical naming scheme >would > > be to have the help channel be #FreeBSD and the convo channel be >#FreeBSD-Talk? > > > > You have to understand that it's not the users' fault that the names are >so > > undescriptive and generic. If it really bothers you that much, make some >sort > > of bot that sends a notice to people when they join that warns them that >they > > will be banned and refers them to #FreeBSDHelp. > >Ignorance kills. They don't accept stupid questions in #linux, or #eggdrop >either. They all have associated help channels. Get a clue. IRC is not >for the weak. If you can't take an occational kick/ban go back to AOL or >DalNet What's with the "get a clue" campaign? The FAQ on freebsd.org says that #freebsd is NOT a tech support channel, however it makes NO mention that there is a channel called #freebsdhelp. Also, every visit of mine to #FreeBSD yields people who simply don't even want to say hello, let along direct you to the right place. Top that off with a channel topic that, as I've seen every time to date, also makes no mention of #freebsdhelp. So, don't you think it would be more HELPFUL to provide the information, instead of just demanding clue-acquistion? You'd be amazed at how many people stop bugging you with questions you don't want to hear then. Just my two cents. --john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message