From owner-freebsd-security Tue Jul 29 18:55:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28667 for security-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28657 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA16359; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:24:28 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199707300154.LAA16359@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: security hole in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: from "Jay D. Nelson" at "Jul 29, 97 07:29:49 pm" To: jdn@qiv.com (Jay D. Nelson) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:24:28 +0930 (CST) Cc: adam@homeport.org, robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org, vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM, security@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jay D. Nelson stands accused of saying: > Sorry -- I guess I'm old fart hold outs. I use uucp and many of my clients > use uucp. From what I see, UUCP use is growing even though these machines > never show up in the maps. I think uucp will grow even more. The ISP I feed from is making a lot of money selling UUCP email services to small and medium-sized businesses, often in conjunction with web hosting services. UUCP has a great deal more flexibility than using dialup POP or push-SMTP, and it's a winner in the "security" argument too. > Perhaps the best approach, if you really want to take it out of the > standard distribution, is to make it an option at install time. Those that > don't know what it is won't install it anyway. This is likely to happen with the next generation of installation software. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[