From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 27 10:09:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18219 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:09:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18210; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:08:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA08158; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:03:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:03:37 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wanton Atticizing is bad In-Reply-To: <68199.914779200@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > And >>>ONLY<<< if somebody feels strongly enough about some of > this, to go and actively maintain it, is reintroduction open to > discussion Even with timidity, there should DEFINITELY be an OPL/3 driver. I would like to take over the VoxWare driver. > > And don't forget: the code can be found in the Attic. > > Further hitlist candidates are: > > X-ten > IPFILTER Wasn't this _just_recently_ committed? Why commit it in the first place if noone really wants it? Personally, I use IPFW. > alog > gp > asc > gsc > mse IIRC I've seen people who used this. > spigot > spkr Good riddance. > lpt (ppbus will be standard) Good, and (you should) make the change in GENERIC. Ppbus works exceptionally well, lpt is really deprecated. > ctx > (Suggestions welcome!) What was the reasoning behind ft though? Anyway, I think that taking suggestions for driver removal should be done on a MUCH larger basis, not just asking -core and -current list reasers. We should try to assess the hardware and software usage of a WIDE range, not just the smaller amount who read the mailing lists. Perhaps some sort of poll on www.freebsd.org for a few months voting for what drivers to keep? For now, I think that sound and probably ft should be back in, at least for 3.0.1. But we need more opinions of course :) > > If you consider yourself maintainer of one of these, and therefore > think that the driver should be spared, please send me email. > > In the future we >may< require that sufficent hardware is available > at the FreeBSD Test Labs (contact: msmith@freebsd.org) to test the > vital life signs of a driver before it gets imported into FreeBSD. > > Mandatory historical perspective section: Find out why the ship > Wasa was built such that it sank before it even made it out of the > harbour. If we keep adding to FreeBSD and never weed out, it will > sink under its own weight. > > Poul-Henning > > > In message , Brian > Feldman writes: > > In the cleanups today, things were broken and irreplacable things deleted. > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message