From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 10:03:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DE516A46B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FFD13C47E for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so973866nfb.33 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:02:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=P+7NVKuyU+V5cHtPwPm/xKOJXFlCNysV2DUt9RaHey4=; b=WEIN3woWnebbZ7pgLN7Cgew49vqHhjiY/CCqRXxCu4I1XWNYjbjzWKPTIh3u9R6ZIROm4ifgD6VHHQVk4uR5arenN3Y2eCQlX2DkdaeP8LwTwFV1nbKibM7NdDQCIp/egin6Lj8xk+ngsrBeMypltkwvsPtQYxe+q6QoCNJdtEE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ESbzGUYNXq+AouEOCMRWKn9gu/Zy1adtQ5O2Bab0YvxUxcIt5M4oNTpR83J6kCXJuFJ/hUwnniuR1aKYxab+QJX92zlX/d/uUtQoOI/G+aTzeJnXcBpU1S9YIN60jN5lS81pGDtjg9MudvC8Zcd2tJYVupTTdT6tTduGTkzQnf0= Received: by 10.78.204.7 with SMTP id b7mr19658321hug.74.1202376934099; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.173.4 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:35:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7ad7ddd90802070135y6eeaded6lcffc6b5751ee5c40@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:35:34 +0100 From: "Ulrich Spoerlein" To: "Doug Barton" In-Reply-To: <47AABEEF.7020807@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3bbf2fe10802061700p253e68b8s704deb3e5e4ad086@mail.gmail.com> <20080207071314.GO99258@elvis.mu.org> <47AABEEF.7020807@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Attilio Rao , Yar Tikhiy , Scot Hetzel , Jeff Roberson , Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] Remove NTFS kernel support X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:03:01 -0000 On Feb 7, 2008 9:18 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > Maybe a nicer way of saying/asking would be to ask: > > > > Is the FUSE replacement going to be tested to the point where it's > > better than then current NTFS code? > > Given that the current NTFS code in the base panics within minutes of > any kind of serious access, and has the ability to take the other > filesystems down with it (including UFS2) that won't be hard. Please keep in mind, that the current FUSE port to FreeBSD is lagging behind and I can reproducibly panic -CURRENT using fuse-ntfs, too. Nevertheless, I think FUSE is the way to go. Perhaps someone could port the NetBSD interface for it to FreeBSD, so we can ship a kernel with FUSE preinstalled (sans GPL). Cheers, Uli