From owner-ctm-users@freebsd.org Tue Oct 23 16:44:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E06BFEBFA7; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from mailout12.t-online.de (mailout12.t-online.de [194.25.134.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCFA084EFD; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from fwd14.aul.t-online.de (fwd14.aul.t-online.de [172.20.26.242]) by mailout12.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 9803841C4D78; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 18:44:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Stefans-MBP-LAN.fritz.box (TcTrn6ZBghe2xKiKhX4nXe1P4-uKLx4MDGUMYRKowcmYHMkniM1ohs0SDiEdXSpQUV@[80.128.111.25]) by fwd14.t-online.de with (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1gEznA-2PbQh60; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 18:44:28 +0200 Subject: Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system? To: "Montgomery-Smith, Stephen" , "Julian H. Stacey" , "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: "ctm-users@freebsd.org" , Poul-Henning Kamp , FreeBSD Current , Ed Maste , Warner Losh References: <201810222132.w9MLVvxC050976@fire.js.berklix.net> From: Stefan Esser Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=se@freebsd.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsBNBFVxiRIBCADOLNOZBsqlplHUQ3tG782FNtVT33rQli9EjNt2fhFERHIo4NxHlWBpHLnU b0s4L/eItx7au0i7Gegv01A9LUMwOnAc9EFAm4EW3Wmoa6MYrcP7xDClohg/Y69f7SNpEs3x YATBy+L6NzWZbJjZXD4vqPgZSDuMcLU7BEdJf0f+6h1BJPnGuwHpsSdnnMrZeIM8xQ8PPUVQ L0GZkVojHgNUngJH6e21qDrud0BkdiBcij0M3TCP4GQrJ/YMdurfc8mhueLpwGR2U1W8TYB7 4UY+NLw0McThOCLCxXflIeF/Y7jSB0zxzvb/H3LWkodUTkV57yX9IbUAGA5RKRg9zsUtABEB AAHNKVN0ZWZhbiBFw59lciAoWWFob28hKSA8c3QuZXNzZXJAeWFob28uZGU+wsCWBBMBCgBA AhsDBwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AWIQSjceplnAvsyCtxUxNH67XvWv31RAUC WvLvqwUJCyUBEwAKCRBH67XvWv31REySCACc6vqcSFQCRyBRc2CV5ZBjbbnTy7VBoXbUS3/c 4Hn8I0YQ39q7//2z8vYsgLeM1mMXL4PUIU/0f0dBAFBLpxV7bntGzyCJls6SeGS/qcQKhqaI 6I7NcWg8OkIJIhUL6q238cS1ql9pU65fyHe0PP8JS08m81PDpX2/4wTE6h2jgYUy55eXRzoF MEjr1S8SSnidsBem27o7iWu9ltJsUtE86071iZlLzbuHv2nvucrjAV9cK9tHrxYT/YiY8QhT L48iWj2xIjLjg1ebmgIFZ2k881we/KTIoUugqOOR1gDSc4qwM8CA388cN3frjtl98CwhAT5T UV8tIDqri+/Z1AKwzsBNBFVxiRIBCACxI/aglzGVbnI6XHd0MTP05VK/fJub4hHdc+LQpz1M kVnCAhFbY9oecTB/togdKtfiloavjbFrb0nJhJnx57K+3SdSuu+znaQ4SlWiZOtXnkbpRWNU eMm+gtTDMSvloGAfr76RtFHskdDOLgXsHD70bKuMhlBxUCrSwGzHaD00q8iQPhJZ5itb3WPq z3B4IjiDAWTO2obD1wtAvSuHuUj/XJRsiKDKW3x13cfavkad81bZW4cpNwUv8XHLv/vaZPSA ly+hkY7NrDZydMMXVNQ7AJQufWuTJ0q7sImRcEZ5EIa98esJPey4O7C0vY405wjeyxpVZkpq ThDMurqtQFn1ABEBAAHCwHwEGAEKACYCGwwWIQSjceplnAvsyCtxUxNH67XvWv31RAUCWvLv qwUJCyUBGQAKCRBH67XvWv31RLnrB/9gzcRlpx71sDMosoZULWn7wysBJ/8AIEfIByRaHQe3 pn/KwE57pB+zFbbQqB7YzeZb7/UUgR4zU2ZbOcEfwDZcHUbj0B3fGRsS3t0uiLlAd8w0sBZb SxrqzjdpDjIbOZkxssqUmvrsN67UG1AFWH9aD24keBS7YjPBS8hLxPeYV+Xz6vUL8fRZje/Z JgiBMIwyj6g2lH/zkdnxBdC0iG1xxJOLTaghMMeQyCdH6ef8+VMyAlAJsMckbOTvx63tY8z7 DFcrnTJfbe1EziRilVsEaK8tTzJzhcTfos+f3eBYWEilxe5HzIhYKJeC7lmsSUcGwa6+9VRg a0ctmi9Z8OgX Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 18:44:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ID: TcTrn6ZBghe2xKiKhX4nXe1P4-uKLx4MDGUMYRKowcmYHMkniM1ohs0SDiEdXSpQUV X-TOI-MSGID: 77a89d11-27b2-4a7b-9220-1d5fd8628276 X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:44:43 -0000 Am 23.10.18 um 17:27 schrieb Montgomery-Smith, Stephen: > I have no problem turning ctm into a port. But I would appreciate > advice on whether there is a standard or easy process for converting > software from the FreeBSD base to a port. If not, I can muddle my way > through it. But give me some time (a few months) to get it done, > because the rest of my life is making heavy demands on me right now. Hi Stephen, I could spend a few hours to perform the conversion to a port and to test it. I've a happy CTM user, many years ago, and I can understand that it still may be useful in special situations. The source archive will need to be hosted somewhere. Do you have a preference (e.g., on a FreeBSD server, or on Github, Gitlab, ...)? Regards, STefan