From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 10:09:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC41106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rgbaz.eu) Received: from jasper.secsrv.net (jasper.secsrv.net [66.98.138.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140F98FC20 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rgbaz.eu) Received: from [145.102.113.76] (helo=nannerl.std.ahk.nl) by jasper.secsrv.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le3w8-0005SJ-Sm; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:55:45 -0500 Message-Id: <89992418-C56E-4969-864C-798105B17F3A@rgbaz.eu> From: FBSD UG To: Charles Oppermann In-Reply-To: <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:55:24 +0100 References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090228191416.2421e88a@scorpio> <49AA19F4.2060408@bah.homeip.net> <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jasper.secsrv.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rgbaz.eu X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:09:13 -0000 On 1 mrt 2009, at 07:37, Charles Oppermann wrote: >>> That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, >>> simply >>> open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of >>> the >>> EULA. >> >> Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in >> Sweden. > > That would be tantamount to allowing software piracy in Sweden. The > Mac OS X > license agreements are contained in a PDF file here: > > http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf > > There is a Swedish language agreement for sales in Sweden. Using on- > line > translation tools, it appears to be similar to what's already been > stated; > use of the software consistutes acceptance of the agreement. If you > do not > agree, you are requested to return the software. Presumably, the > retail > materials contain this agreement, and I'm sure there is digital copy > that is > presented and must be agreed to before use. > > I'm sure that Apple has very good lawyers who drafted the license > agreements > and are aware of Swedish law. While what you are doing may or may > not be in > violation of any licenses, your position that "clicking yes or no is > not a > handshake or oral agreement acording to Swedish law" seems dubious and > ill-advised. > > Consider what you're suggesting: If EULA's and license agreements > simply > weren't valid in Sweden, then what would prevent massive piracy from > occuring? I would assume that if license agreements in Sweden weren't > enforcable, someone would be setting up their own software copying > business. > > ...and if that happened, I would expect software companies to change > their > license agreements in order to prevent it. > >> If you are under 18 you can't make any >> legally binding agreements without your legal guardians permission. > > That might be true, but at least in the United States, parents or > guardians > are usually held responsible. > _______________________________________________ it's probably why this is happening in Sweden: http://www.ukfast.co.uk/internet-news/pirate-bay-court-case-starts.html