From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 23 11:01:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02561 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:01:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02555 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:01:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 27023 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Nov 1998 19:01:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19981123140140.A26843@palomine.net> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:01:40 -0500 From: Chris Johnson To: Ben Smithurst Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fwd: Undeliverable: Re: The message was delivered with a warning. References: <3659242C.22AA2D3A@uk.radan.com> <19981123122629.A8841@scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19981123122629.A8841@scientia.demon.co.uk>; from Ben Smithurst on Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 12:26:29PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 12:26:29PM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote: > Mark Ovens wrote: > > > > MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:ChesserHouse:MAILSRV1 > > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > Kind of illustrates the IQ of those responsible. > > As does this, from my server's reject log: > > 1998-11-23 12:01:14 0zhug5-0002BZ-00 rejected from punt-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.34]: no valid sender in message headers: return path is <> > Recipients: ben@scientia.demon.co.uk > > Shit, they can't even get a valid address in the headers of bounce > messages, so I doubt they'll ever stop this MIMESweeper crap. The envelope sender of a bounce message is supposed to be blank (i.e "return path is <>"). If your mail server rejects messages because of a blank envelope, it's misconfigured (RFC 1123, 5.2.9). Or perhaps I misunderstand what you're saying. Chris > > P Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.34]) > by scientia.demon.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.053 #18) > id 0zhug5-0002BZ-00 for ben@scientia.demon.co.uk; > Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:01:14 +0000 > P Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ben@scientia.demon.co.uk > id 911822380:10:10458:8; Mon, 23 Nov 98 11:59:40 GMT > P Received: from pat.edin.org ([193.36.232.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net > id aa1122464; 23 Nov 98 11:59 GMT > P Received: from MAILSRV1 (exchange.edin.org [193.36.232.4]) > by edin.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA19864 > for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:59:22 GMT > P Received: by mailsrv1.ch.educ.edin.gov.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) > id ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:59:16 -0000 > I Message-ID: > F From: System Administrator > T To: ben@scientia.demon.co.uk > Subject: Undeliverable: Re: The message was delivered with a warning. > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:59:14 -0000 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BE16D8.B165E1C6" > > -- > Ben Smithurst > ben@scientia.demon.co.uk > > send a blank message to ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk for PGP key > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message