From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 2 12:14:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362B316A422 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 12:14:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Received: from asclepius.uwa.edu.au (asclepius3.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92A043D49 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 12:14:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Received: from asclepius.kas (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 71A7A184CC7 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:13:57 +0800 (WST) Received: from asclepius (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.prekas (Postfix) with SMTP id 33611186F0F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:13:57 +0800 (WST) X-UWA-Client-IP: 130.95.13.9 (UWA) Received: from mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.9]) by asclepius.extinput (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7AA185F22 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:13:56 +0800 (WST) Received: by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 801) id 8A06518ADA; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:13:53 +0800 (WST) Received: from mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.18]) by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4501183F6; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:13:52 +0800 (WST) Received: from zanchey (helo=localhost) by mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au with local-esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1EtOZU-0007bq-00; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:13:52 +0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:13:52 +0800 (WST) From: David Adam To: "Mitch (Bitblock)" In-Reply-To: <002401c60f7f$e020d870$0600010a@hts.bitblock.net> Message-ID: References: <002401c60f7f$e020d870$0600010a@hts.bitblock.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Formal (309/051227) X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Detect Hard [UCS 290904] X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: SysLog X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Marking Spam - Subject (UCS) [02-08-04] X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 2.0.0 [0125], KAS/Release Cc: 'David Syphers' , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: OK - I'm stumped - where IS stable? Sorry if it seems like a dumb question but I looked in the handbook... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:14:08 -0000 Mitch, On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Mitch (Bitblock) wrote: > > > From: "Mitch \(Bitblock\)" > > > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 16:15:57 -0800 > > > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > > > > > The handbook > > > (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current- > > stable.ht > > > ml#STABLE) references > > ftp://snapshots.jp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ > > > - which doesn't seem to contain any 6.0 files newer than 2004? > > > > > > The main FTP site doesn't contain a "branches" folder for anything past > > > 4.0-stable. > > > > > > Are formal "stable releases" not available for 6.0 yet? Just the current > > > daily snapshots? > > > [Mitch says:] Thanks to both of you for your reply - so basically, it seems > that what was once documented... > (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.ht > ml) is no longer maintained? Should I point this out to someone on a doc > list or something? Where CURRENT could be buggy and was not yet reviewed / > fully tested, and STABLE was given an extra level of QA has at some point > been abandoned then? > > Or are the CVS branches still in existence, but there is just no longer an > ftp'able repository? > > My reason for looking at this is that I have some hardware which worked in > 5.4, but does not in 6.0 RELEASE 0, so I thought I'd try to test bootable > STABLE snapshots periodically to see if the problem gets fixed. > > The handbook seems to specifically state that STABLE branch should be able > to be downloaded and installed like any normal RELEASE, but what you are > saying is that I have to patch a 6.0 RELEASE now - does the "stable" code > branch exist? Or am I likely to find unworkable snapshots? The handbook document should point to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ instead (I think there's a problem report with a patch under review). Yes, the -STABLE branch exists. That's how you would patch a 6.0-RELEASE system: using cvsup(1) to follow the STABLE branch changes. You'll probably want ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/Dec_2005/6.0-STABLE-SNAP010-i386-disc1.iso or ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/Dec_2005/6.0-STABLE-SNAP010-i386-bootonly.iso (long URLs, may wrap). Generally speaking, the snapshots will work. Yes, you should be able to just download and install them. However, because they're taken from a continually-moving branch, and aren't subject to a code freeze and rigorous review, they might have minor issues. It's unlikely, but if a snapshot explodes your computer, steals your children and wipes your credit cards, You Have Been Warned. I hope you have some luck with the snapshots - what hardware specifically isn't working? This list or freebsd-questions@freebsd.org may be able to help you. Cheers, David Adam zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (FreeBSD paradise.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #5)