From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 23:18:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1850616A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from iota.fastbighost.com (iota.fastbighost.com [65.98.8.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34AA13C468 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:18:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from [89.123.12.203] (port=52934 helo=deimos.bsd.nix) by iota.fastbighost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISL3Y-0007sp-Qq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:10:09 +0000 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 02:17:52 +0000 From: Ghirai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070904021752.0066b70a.ghirai@ghirai.com> In-Reply-To: <20070903174654.1afa4354.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <60608.18289.qm@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20070903225247.bd5622ff.ghirai@ghirai.com> <20070903163141.2f4e1f9e.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20070903234458.cb13c501.ghirai@ghirai.com> <20070903174654.1afa4354.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: ghirai@ghirai.com X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iota.fastbighost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ghirai.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: periodic freeze and reset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:18:19 -0000 On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:46:54 -0400 Bill Moran wrote: > Ghirai wrote: > > > > On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:31:41 -0400 > > Bill Moran wrote: > > > > > Ghirai wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello list, > > > > > > > > My desktop running 6.2-STABLE is freezing then resetting shortly after. > > > > This behaviour happens every couple hours, for no apparent reason. > > > > > > > > I checked messages, etc, there's nothing there. > > > > > > > > This is getting annoying... :/ > > > > > > > > I'd appreciate any hints/where to look/what to look for. > > > > > > My first guess would be hardware problems. Have you run memtest? > > > Checked for cooling problems? cpuburn to test for a flaky CPU? > > > > > > > Haven't ran any hw monitors/test, but i spend time periodically in windows, > > about 2-3 days each time, and it didn't crash reset. > > > > That's why i think there are no hw issues. > > > > In FreeBSD the freeze+resets occur and seemingly random intervals, but > > not longer than 30 hours. Mostly within 6 hours. > > That seems to suggest that it isn't hardware, but doesn't completely > eliminate the possibility. > > Often, vendors write drivers to work around known deficiencies in their > hardware. Since FreeBSD's drivers are written to the specs, they may > expose these deficiencies while the vendor's drivers intentionally avoid > them. > > Additionally, FreeBSD seems to work hardware in different ways than > Windows, thus tickling corner cases with hardware that's just barely > failing. Run some hardware tests to be sure. > > Also, the driver issue that was raised is a good point. I've seen a > number of buggy NICs where the vendor's driver worked around the > bugginess so it _looked_ like FreeBSD was at fault. > > Make sure all your hardware is known to work on FreeBSD. > All right, i'll do some tests with the NIC, change it, etc. I'll post back results. Thanks. -- Regards, Ghirai.