From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 12 09:41:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 253D6836 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x234.google.com (mail-ie0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD26B192D for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by iebps5 with SMTP id ps5so21054220ieb.3 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:41:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=QTP4vlA04bkByusR8yy+dKc4kjPXL/6JVTiqtEaYJCk=; b=JjLGwz10Wwy+7tmaWqAmLbTimV/dUSzrXeW9qCfaOxGeaWAmRoLc3edOR/RqXRQ7+5 COXLj3TJvRnG5/NdEIZM8PgQkaRP8BosCsZNYGcwhvu8Uuo7OS+pZ8Hod8ypcaN5JoX6 /bLXuNwzSmfiWmJO4mWnnrtRSW12irlo+rfKChlRF3GKvCzbgbiU9Usv+XRdz77ID9d3 LnJY+7v9+tIWfsWZHfft5lJ1tz8FNmuBiaJeBFB9ELWrsJXZLEHOQDw6Sl80G2yjo1OD OvYtfMoHMNLXlUK0ss014RG83YDhSC0zpdvadFUyfXWPzmoj1ybC/u9b0uLeoGr89xUX Mtcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.43.199 with SMTP id y7mr15328276ice.12.1434102116077; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.15.33 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:41:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <23f251dd1a66d0a88ed041ae2593cb98@kathe.in> References: <731c3f79950e679799b5f8078a5ba7f0@kathe.in> <917AE52A-45E0-42CB-A6A8-40BAAE318CC9@gmail.com> <1c5f3e6e3cafb9022d257afcce1757b3@kathe.in> <6ee4e8712a7499dd3d703e540f46059b@kathe.in> <23f251dd1a66d0a88ed041ae2593cb98@kathe.in> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:41:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: randall hyde's high level assembly! From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: mayuresh@kathe.in Cc: Matthew Pherigo , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:41:57 -0000 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > On 2015-06-12 11:24, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Mayuresh Kathe >> wrote: >> >> On 2015-06-12 11:04, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Mayuresh Kathe >>> wrote: >>> >>> hi matthew, >>> >>> no luck, I got the following message; >>> root@www:~ # pkg install hla >>> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >>> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. >>> All repositories are up-to-date. >>> pkg: No packages available to install matching 'hla' have been >>> found in the repositories >>> >>> `uname -a` gives me the following; >>> FreeBSD www.kathe.in [1] [1] 10.1-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD >>> 10.1-RELEASE-p10 >>> #0: Wed May 13 06:54:13 UTC 2015 >>> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >>> amd64 >>> >>> `freebsd-version` gives me the following; >>> 10.1-RELEASE-p11 >>> >>> anything i might be doing wrong? >>> >>> ~mayuresh >>> >>> On 2015-06-12 09:26, Matthew Pherigo wrote: >>> Hey Mayuresh, >>> >>> There's actually a port in the tree already! 'pkg install hla' >>> >>> --Matt >>> >>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:52 AM, Mayuresh Kathe >>> wrote: >>> >>> has anyone been successful at working with randall hyde's high >>> level assembly toolkit under freebsd 10.x? >>> http://www.plantation-productions.com/Webster/ [2] [2] claims to >>> have a >>> pre-built archive, but one that fails to assemble the binaries. :( >>> >>> ~mayuresh >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Is hla able to generate 64-bit machine code for amd64 ? >>> >>> It seems that it is for 32-bits , i.e. i386 . >>> >> >> i have been able to run and test 'hla' under amd64 systems running >> ubuntu. >> any particular reason why it will not run under freebsd 64-bit? >> one of the things that could be a problem might be the "assembler" >> itself, i couldn't find "gas" or an equivalent under freebsd. >> >> ~mayuresh >> >> Can you use Nasm ? >> >> CD /USR/PORTS/DEVEL/NASM >> MAKE INSTALL >> >> http://forum.nasm.us/index.php?topic=3D1283.0 [3] >> > > thanks for that tip mehmet, much appreciate it. > > i hadn't known about "nasm", looking it up led me to a book on assembly > language programming by jeff duntemann, which seems to be a lot more > realistic than the one by randall hyde. > > again, thanks a million mehmet. :) > > ~mayuresh > > 64 bits operating systems are different from 32 bits operating systems . During working with assemblers , it is necessary to distinguish this feature . In a 64 bits operating system , if 32 bits programs will be used , it is necessary to have 32 bits libraries and support by the operating system . This means that you can not execute 32 bits programs in a 64 bits operating system without such support . In the following page : http://www.duntemann.com/assembly.html read "If You Have a 64-Bit PC..." the especially . "64-Bit PC" is misleading : It should be "64-Bit Operating System" . Both Intel and AMD x86 processors mainly support both 32 and 64 bit operating systems : They are able to execute 32 and 64 bit instructions . Therefore , important points are bit size of ( 32 or 64 ) operating system , and handling capability of this feature by compilers and availability of libraries , and support by the operating system . It is necessary to have information about 64 bit assembly programming in an 64 bit operating system . http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Intel-Assembly-Language-Programming/dp/1= 478119209/ref=3Dpd_sim_14_1?ie=3DUTF8&refRID=3D15NZ1SBWCZAMH1X6KPZG Introduction to 64 Bit Intel Assembly Language Programming for Linux: Second Edition Paperback =E2=80=93 June 23, 2012 by Benjamin Ray Seyfarth (Author) Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk