From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 08:12:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266B916A46E for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 08:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A18D13C46E for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 08:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so419181uge for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 01:12:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=o18FNWJ2b3F/1WgTZL5IrC0yvUAcmiDm8A/xUJ5gt2m7Bdy7pHBUpo9M7AmTJxZN+mY4CgpX6bBUSIKrnYfm1BtC7CX4i7m4+16+hgm61nK40MOllezJMCuhfqCte17MtvtTutkEP2HFuFSqYxNJk93GdnFbcT3dRnGE5p5YMFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GlaLN5zC7Cg1FaqgI4cc4SLpQ/ez6e9iI89Sgn0GuUc1u7NzObEI9sKQXa8bMMG0RyY12ekZZd+VCLtjfH12Sjs8po96dMF0K2coHB3WH6J1EMG6AsNpK7YkxOSvyvksLgBdiQVGofosUzMt/ktDB+tktsR8BVHxbNvAQHypbj8= Received: by 10.67.97.18 with SMTP id z18mr1373606ugl.1180770326196; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 00:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.24.16 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 00:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0706020045v1ce69a7bsec4a8dced2a99fe1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 08:45:26 +0100 From: Chris To: "Mark Linimon" In-Reply-To: <20070529182224.GD8255@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20070529111757.GE70055@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20070529182224.GD8255@soaustin.net> Cc: Volker , Peter Jeremy , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 08:12:57 -0000 On 29/05/07, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > Agreed. 6.3-RELEASE would nominally be due around July but the lack > > of any schedule on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/ suggests that it will > > be later than that. The plans to start the 7.0-RELEASE cycle will also > > impact this. > > At BSDCan, Ken Smith mentioned that 7.0 is due to be branched in July and > released in Aug/Sep, with 6.3 quickly following (perhaps even overlapping > so as to reuse the same ports freeze). > > The ports tree is not even close to stable enough to release right now. > > mcl > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Given that Kris repeatedly tells me and others that the ports system is only supported on the latest freebsd release (meaning one has to be upgrading freebsd on their servers every few months to get this support) if 7.0 and 6.3 are released around the same time will the ports tree be supported on both? Due to the fact the ports tree is only supported on the latest freebsd release I propose longer release cycles for example not releasing 6.3 until 6.2 is almost EOL rather then having 2 releases overlap each other because the current situation is there is a release that is supported by the security team but not by the ports tree so it is a half supported release, I also prefer slower major release cycles as well but I keep been told no on that one :) eg. it would be nice if 7.0 was delayed a month or more to allow the full pf openbsd synch up rather then leaving it because lack of time before 7.0 release. Chris Chris