From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 27 08:37:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099CE15DE41A for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic304-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic304-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.179.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D717C73C88 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: VOMaKdAVM1ndHKcgOoMt2TBx6T1MIjtjAoxr_clDGlh6kWLXs2sqxee.Xpii4iQ uOkduYx9SfyBphzV4x08y4tAQeMrCKGNfvJOKfhOSrT16da4.YoozSnz4HW6YEd6_kp3iwMsTFql nkz2Z9QzdtYid9IwLmod9TeMFwwrNqCcmBAkQFxMZf6mFU3jHKr88ctDT_JM_BL_085YBzxhlHIP Aw8_qCER524EOPQOV_70T1gPH48O0M5L1cHfIkXiAKfvLq81bAh1PeAIQLTWvL3Xm8rehHRhAX6m FEkg8n4u_BEmyXABanjX_ViUflNTQONvdRUqaLC_VaeUPVael2q9ILW4lVKkC1Vizz.N2OB_Ylma _fKsqEWhdhvhyo2GiruWwmgXZZ7m.s.usLPC_.1jglXXs4yb0EG9p.vzkrl0LncokgE8T64Y6XAk f4aBJonAauDtSo_c_ws790LBJrDXOPcfXHWthdjPihRchaRG5SU0oHPCBvnbsbZD5XHuTXpX3JVR ucrp9lRps_mYcpiX1v9uyAOMLMtTAXsiXb5kIj2qtaatmRZvBgCIU0aQ0ykBC3fx0hg.gLcyb0Yi Y764QVy4kbPAgb.nIX.7B.eaaquAepGtoI0JHDUF7Sj2cmZ41Vy5ubM0VLJObkvmhNCVBGzhIO0Z N3vYiflMFuW1SiWqtQax9qVkeCmfLa1SIfOaF2rVwl8jljRc59QXtK4hDS_GOjWekv9wffUelVW4 f9_Tn5rd5MGYoyePEP20WRxfTaarMU32jln1qMw9yiP5l13oSQ28zbgfQBccg47xrbTr1.oGj27r 3tln9s.JQW8WnK0ifudsPrYQAJHw95NtvZyXBM_5hjpFIVRJvrPnRAvVFlCDAqOFr5.w3mP0dVPV Zpc8qdXEsxi0QLKK4BiSC2Qxs_1gS0PeONt39aKuDYpIiSaKHOLwHjGpgyoVxjkueIYZRFAGF0.n 3lAuSI4pQf1uKjcppPxQniuDcgRl38CpYltvkXT6z6dpVbPbDH9BFFDnSUomnvSZ9dvF_I8310ol n7R982x_5kSnF3kfLy0fcvWfw2F1NpvWqDvp8W_IiErUZBWbj3ikaWI32SSMbbLybkNyW4G9Y4XK NKp9._SeodUO.jMhFjr0B7gMFXPnehR6WRcA8zt92ioMMFiZExGl8aqTogRA3CEApGknVfDRjg9i yiEnc6B.rKjm7cReUx3a6.Ko4ddWS0GjI8sAI0HclgSwPo6lcG1IwSVKVsR0dWbnGWw-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic304.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:37:01 +0000 Received: by smtp401.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 57e5ef85c0d099502c2ec72204726f1c; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:37:01 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I've got a major question... Message-ID: <20190627103701.7ea401b8@archlinux> In-Reply-To: References: <20190626063443.51ad3f1b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627081518.9dc6f3c2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627091012.44fc65a7@archlinux> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D717C73C88 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.99 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(2.23)[ip: (6.93), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.40), asn: 34010(1.88), country: GB(-0.09)]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.91)[0.913,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.47)[0.467,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.89)[0.889,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[146.179.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:37:12 -0000 Hi, I don't want to discourage anybody to migrate to FLOSS operating systems, but before doing so, it's worth the effort to take everything into account. A few years ago some big German cities migrated from a proprietary operating system to Linux and not that much later back to the proprietary operating system. Just take a look at the homepage of the German fiscal authority: An important note mentions, that an option is only available for a proprietary operating system. "Wichtiger Hinweis: Zur Zeit ist der FormsForWeb Filler nur f=C3=BCr Windows verf=C3=BCgbar." Keep in mind that some software is not available at all for FLOSS operating systems and if a replacement should be available, it's often not that compatible as claimed. If you send a file to a printing house, you need to generate a file that is 100% compatible to the common used standard, a 99% compatible file could cause a lot of trouble. Apart from that, users should understand a distro's policy, that's why I posted the explanation for Ubuntu's "universe" repository, but there's way more to consider. In my experiences the first mistake usually is already done after downlaoding an installation media. Not many users check it against a signed checksum. I provided a script on some Ubuntu flavour mailing lists [1]. However, even this script can't provide a web of trust. Assuming FLOSS software was already successfully used on a proprietary operating system and assuming the same software is available for a FLOSS operating system, too and known to work without issues on that FLOSS operating system, you still can't be sure that it will work without issues out of the box with all hardware. Regards, Ralf [1] [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat luamd64_1610.sh=20 #!/bin/bash #luamd64_1610.sh 2016-10-27 rocketmouse flavour=3Dubuntu-mate release=3D16.10 hms=3D$(date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M%S") use() { cat<&1 | grep OK \033[0m\n\n" read -n1 -p"Press a key to finish " printf "\n\n" sha256sum -c SHA256SUMS 2>&1 | grep OK status=3D$? if [ $status -ne 0 ]; then echo "$flavour-$iso-amd64.iso: Validation failed" fi echo exit $status