From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 15 21:04:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF3C1065676 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.72.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C168FC16 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from reflector.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com ([206.210.89.202]) by mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.4(4.1.1.4-47689)); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:25:39 -0500 X-VirtualServerGroup: Default X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::::438 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1zdGFibGVAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Message-ID: <4B79B6BB.1060809@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:03:55 -0500 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100211 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Langille References: <4B786D3A.3000408@langille.org> <4B7980E0.1020907@langille.org> In-Reply-To: <4B7980E0.1020907@langille.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , Dan Naumov Subject: Re: hardware for home use large storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:04:29 -0000 On 02/15/10 12:14, Dan Langille wrote: > Dan Naumov wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >>> Dan Naumov wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote: >>>>>> After creating three different system configurations (Athena, >>>>>> Supermicro, and HP), my configuration of choice is this Supermicro >>>>>> setup: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Samsung SATA CD/DVD Burner $20 (+ $8 shipping) >>>>>> 2. SuperMicro 5046A $750 (+$43 shipping) >>>>>> 3. LSI SAS 3081E-R $235 >>>>>> 4. SATA cables $60 >>>>>> 5. Crucial 3×2G ECC DDR3-1333 $191 (+ $6 shipping) >>>>>> 6. Xeon W3520 $310 >>>> You do realise how much of a massive overkill this is and how much you >>>> are overspending? >>> >>> I appreciate the comments and feedback. I'd also appreciate >>> alternative >>> suggestions in addition to what you have contributed so far. Spec >>> out the >>> box you would build. >> >> ====================== >> Case: Fractal Design Define R2 - 89 euro: >> http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=32 >> >> Mobo/CPU: Supermicro X7SPA-H / Atom D510 - 180-220 euro: >> http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPA.cfm?typ=H >> >> PSU: Corsair 400CX 80+ - 59 euro: >> http://www.corsair.com/products/cx/default.aspx >> >> RAM: Corsair 2x2GB, DDR2 800MHz SO-DIMM, CL5 - 85 euro >> ====================== >> Total: ~435 euro >> >> The motherboard has 6 native AHCI-capable ports on ICH9R controller >> and you have a PCI-E slot free if you want to add an additional >> controller card. Feel free to blow the money you've saved on crazy >> fast SATA disks and if your system workload is going to have a lot of >> random reads, then spend 200 euro on a 80gb Intel X25-M for use as a >> dedicated L2ARC device for your pool. > > Based on the Fractal Design case mentioned above, I was told about > Lian Lia cases, which I think are great. As a result, I've gone with > a tower case without hot-swap. The parts are listed at and > reproduced below: > > http://dan.langille.org/2010/02/15/a-full-tower-case/ > > 1. LIAN LI PC-A71F Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case $240 > (from mwave) > 2. Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W PSU $80 > 3. Samsung SATA CD/DVD Burner $20 (+ $8 shipping) > 4. Intel S3200SHV LGA 775 Intel 3200 m/b $200 > 5. Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 CPU $190 > 6. SATA cables $22 > 7. Supermicro LSI MegaRAID 8 Port SAS RAID Controller $118 > 8. Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM ECC $97 > > Total cost is about $1020 with shipping. Plus HDD. > > No purchases yet, but the above is what appeals to me now. Dan, I'm not sure about that particular card, but we've never seen that great of performance out of the LSI MegaRAID cards that ship with Dell servers as the PERC. The newest incarnations are better, but I would try to get an Areca. The ones we have tested have displayed fantastic performance. They are fairly expensive in comparison, though. If you're using ZFS in place of the RAID on the LSI MegaRAID, I'd instead recommend other simpler SAS cards which are known to have good driver support.